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Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-13 01:13:20


Super Smoove 
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yeah I know we're just dicks being dicks to each other it's all good
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-13 01:13:35


Super Smoove 
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<3
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-13 06:32:07


Math Wolf 
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I really don't like to do this, but I find what just happened very disrespectful. So I'll break silence and offer my input.

First of all, in the case we are talking about, it's not me who used it, it's BelSon: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=18581276 So if you accuse me once more or try to make up anything with respect to ulterior motives, I will report you to the ethics panel for slander, I'm done with this. We used this feature several times in multiple games to discuss the moves between teammates, not to try to get an advantage over an opponent. I think it's very likely that other teams used it as well as this feature is commonly known by now.
Additionally, note that using it on purpose to gain advantage would still be legal as well with current CL rules and actually no different than taking back control from an AI, which is also not easily visible and also risks the opponent getting surprised (as happened in our 3v3 vs. Outlaws).

Second of all: I can understand why Smoove got upset. He did a really bad move that turn because he waited until the last moment hoping to play against an AI. If he had paid any attention, he'd known that this feature has been around for months. I even used it (not on purpose) TWICE in the 2v2 FE game where my teammate is AI-Nauz, so he should have really seen it in action before. There are no excuses on Smoove's part to not be informed.

Third of all: I understand that Smoove wants to create drama and undercut Statisticians' good run in A. It must be very frustrating to admit that WG will possibly, some even say likely, relegate again at the cost of a clan they dismissed at the start. It would do him good to accept that has nothing to do with any cheating, but rather with their own play and avoidable mistakes like the one he made.

In conclusion all I have to say is that Smoove would do best to accept that he made a mistake, instead of trying to divert the blame to others. In my professional environment, people who consistently do the latter typically don't last long as after a while nobody wants to work with them anymore.

Edited 7/13/2019 07:13:23
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-13 13:27:05

Rento 
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I'm pretty sure that slander isn't against CL rules either.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-13 20:12:12


Derfellios
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The panel reserves the right to ban any player for a season for excessive spamming on the CL forum threads. Harassing the panel will result in a ban as well(You will be warned once). Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but please express it in a respectful manner.

This is the official rule.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-15 12:47:36


Master Meldarion 
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https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19109915

Lynx v SNinja 3v3 biomes replacement game
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-15 13:39:56

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Greetings far better players,
Can MH use their 6th sub for AI in 2v2 Guiroma. Berenbossen in

1. Player out AI
2. Player in Berenbossen
3. Tournament Guiroma 2v2
4. Subs left none (I believe we have 1 remaining)
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-16 14:56:33


Sakata Gintoki
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Though CL panels don't follow many rules, I wonder if this sub can be made.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-16 15:28:56


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Edited 7/16/2019 16:10:07
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-17 16:15:15


Jefferspin 
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Good point, farah.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-17 20:43:21


Farah♦ 
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Thank you Jeff. Your feedback is much appreciated.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-18 03:19:05


Master Cowboy 
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No, I definitely disagree with your point and am reporting you to the ethics panel.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-18 07:22:36

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and here i am hanging on :) Can't say I disagree with Farah's point
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-22 09:48:42


Master Meldarion 
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Farah is still a lazy sod; so https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19157418 there you go. WG v MH replacement game 2v2 guiroma
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-07-27 21:41:22


ChrisCMU 
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Wow, drama. I go away on vacation for a couple weeks and shit hits the fan.

Anyway, apparently we are subbing Smoove from the 2v2 Cookies tourney to Guest

Thanks.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-08-03 14:47:49


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I would like to suggest that the setting "Players can turn into AI" is turned off for next season. If a player boots in a CL game, where the competition allows substitutes, then they should be booted end of the story. I think Ai has the ability to make some wacky moves and win games and I've seen it happening on top-level team games. Why should the AI come to save the booted players rescue?

and to those who disagree with my argument, could you please tell me why would you want an AI to be in there?
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-08-03 14:57:11


Buns157 
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So a won game isn’t lost due to a boot.

If an AI making surprising moves wins a game then you were probably not going to win anyway
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-08-03 17:00:35


Norman 
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I think Ai has the ability to make some wacky moves and win games and I've seen it happening on top-level team games.

This league has gone to the dumps.

and to those who disagree with my argument, could you please tell me why would you want an AI to be in there?

So that players can rejoin after getting booted.
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-08-03 19:46:31

FiveStarGeneral
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Just out of curiosity for what these games are like got any links of AIs winning games?
Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2019-08-04 03:27:19


ChrisCMU 
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I agree with buns.

Do we really want a team to win via boot anyway? Keep AI, it should never make better moves than a player in A.
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