Fizzer:

"Your argument is that szeweningen is self-promoting because he spent time trying to teach other players?"

My response:

I used all 80+ games I have played with [WM]szeweningen to teach a few rules to Warlight as a means to say [WM]szeweningen's teaching was nothing more than self-promotion. In the process of my teaching, I sometimes show how [WM]szeweningen misplayed and explain why.

[WM]szeweningen cherry-picked about 10 games that he won (according to [WM]szeweningen: "losing wouldn't have the same effect") to show how certain top players (BB, MC, Lollipop, unknown, etc.) misplayed as a means to say that [WM]szeweningen is better than them. For example, unknown has won about 90% of his ladder games and against top opponents. [WM]szeweningen invited him to a game (in which unknown had no motivation to play and [WM]szeweningen did), beat him, and then used the game to imply that it is equivalent to unknown's accomplishments. This is not teaching.

We both used teaching as a means to an end. His end was self-promotion. Mine was to show his was nothing more than self-promotion. Locking such a thread seems a bit ridiculous, especially given your acceptance of more harmful negativity on the forum whose means and ends have no worth whatsoever.

By saying all of this, you're starting a vicious cycle of self promotion, via degradation of what you call someone else's self promotion.


My understanding is he was using the games that he played very well, against opponents of very high skill level to show what happened well for himself, since he can explain his train of though. He don't know what other players are thinking exactly so he can pinpoint his ideas in a manner which will help others.

If he talked about games he lost, yes you can learn from them, but we (the "lesser" players) don't need help on how to lose! That's why you folks are better.

Why not just let him do his teaching thing, and you go in your direction and do your own 1-on-1 teaching thing? He was trying to better players, and by your attacking every game you played with him, ever, didn't help anyone in any way.

It's a game mate, let him do his thing, you do yours.

some one clearly has a load of time on their hands.. what a waste of time to be honest.. anything better to do with your life?

The best, and the only critique you could give to Sz's style of tutorial would be to do it better and let the people judge. By framing your lessons in the context of your derogatory comments regarding him, you surrender the moral high ground, and no one is going to take you seriously when you're down swimming in the muck.

Way to respond to a criticism of negativity by increasing the negativity...

aside from the fact that this is pathetic, fizzer shut down the other thread, presumably because he didnt want a response.

I'm pretty sure Gui, aka The Don aka a zillion other names, walks around every day thinking to himself:

Why does everyone have to be so dumb? Why can't everyone be smart like me? I wonder what life would be like if everyone were super duper smart like I am. That would be the best. All the world's problems would be solved. Let me go teach everybody all the smart things I know, then the world will be a better place. Holy crap! Someone else is trying to teach people things! What an idiot! They're going to ruin the world! Why does this always happen? Every time I try to fix the whole world some idiot ruins it. If I only I could rid the world of idiots. Why does everyone have to be so dumb...

lol ^^

@J Russell: I'm going to go print and frame your post now to put it on my wall. I need a good laugh in the morning.

@Gui: I highly doubt anyone was going to actually read that wall of text. Sorry you didn't realise that before actually committing yourself to it.

to be honest gui, i was surprised you weren't given a formal warning for slating szeniwigen like that

i don't really think anybody read all those game summaries (i certainly didn't) and i don't know what you would gain by doing so

Just for curiosity's sake: what is this thread even about!? I've got this feeling I seriously missed something (whether it was something important remains to be determined ;) ).

@Arun:

to be honest gui, i was surprised you weren't given a formal warning for slating szeniwigen like that

Whether he got a warning or not, other players couldn't see it either way; only actual suspensions are visible on a player's profile (and even then only for the duration of the suspension).

@Gui/Don/whatever:
Why on Earth do you keep (radically) changing your username every time? I don't know about everyone else, but I find it utterly confusing. I could understand changing your name to add or remove clan tags, or add "(retiring)" to your name or every once in half a decade switch over to a new handle you're using everywhere else as well, but I don't understand your name changes...?

i think the same but i never really asked

i wondered for a month or two why everyone called you gui, and your name was evereux or whatever.

it took me a while to realise The Don was you

sorry for the double post


out of interest, do you make any money from your WL Strategy site?

@RvW: http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=3930

I've always wondered the same thing though... especially after joining one of your tournaments, commenting on the excessive number of copies of that tournament, apologizing after realising it was "Evreux" and not "Guillaume le Taciturne", et ensuite seulement découvrir la vérité après que tu t'es moqué, en français, pensant que je ne le découvrirait pas.

Mind explaining?

rvw,

what is this thread even about: fizzer asked me a question in another thread.

Why on Earth do you keep (radically) changing your username every time? it's not a real name. why do people change their clothes every day? my uncle don (my dad's godfather) died the day i changed my name. when he talked he sounded a bit like don corliani.

was it useful to do to szewn what he has done to others? yes. for that period of time, i was able to stay awake (and not further mess up my sleeping patterns) after a long tiring week of work and study. during that time, i was able to not think about my uncle, a damn good man.

jr, I'm pretty sure Gui, aka The Don aka a zillion other names, walks around every day thinking to himself: "how can i sleep better. how can i keep my wife happy. is what the professor emeritus at ucla told me about the history of savoy worth pursuing when i return to paris? how can i learn advanced german vocabulary given my limited time and focus? etc."

in real life i bet you are more or less the same persona you are here. i am not. i use up all my patience each day teaching kids english and history and speaking chinese at home. the other day a manager told me she thinks i am a "gentle patient scholar." now, when i come to a website for a childish war game played by grown men, i have no desire to pussy-foot. in the workplace men are domesticated enough: 'professionalism' is really nothing more than acting more and more like women! i come to this site to wage war, cuss and argue like a man, and chat with friends.

dick sharp/jr, i do you two a service. without me, who would you criticize? arun? how fun is that really? like you, i need to criticize someone every now and then. while you two tend to nitpick the words of knaves and children, szewening the pretentious university student from poland serves that role for me.

eric, tu as quel age ? je ne me souviens pas de ce que tu dit. la plupart de mes mots est soit un jeu soit pour rigoler. en fait, je ne suis pas tres serieux.

i don't think swe is pretentious and worth critising gentle patient scholar

Too be honest, I learned a lot from sze as well as from you. Sze's part was more on the 3v3 europe part while yours was a little more on 1v1 strategic. I could honestly care less about who wins what. As long as people understand the reasoning behind ones actions and can reproduce them people will learn from it.

I also learned a lot in particular from watching RR tournaments between top players as there is no lack of motivation as you mention.

lol. ever have a conversation with him?

@ericleb010,

Ah, I completely missed that thread; must've fallen of the bottom of the recent posts list when I took longer than usual to refresh. Thank you for the link!

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@The Don,

I'm sorry to hear that, I hope your other name changes were for very, very different reasons. My apologies for asking you the question on this occasion. :s

lol. ever have a conversation with him?

Why yes, yes I have had a conversation with him. He has never once degraded you or any other player, so why would you do it to him?

I personally learned alot about picking and strategy in 1v1 due to his lesson in the chat room, and has made me 200x better in 1v1 and 2v2 and 3v3 etc. I could care less if you beat him more then he beat you. If anything, it's because you're not worth his time.