oh yeah? i don't recall myself posting multiple posts on the same topic

i totally agree with x

why post then?

Because it is a forum and he is a member of warlight his opinion is valid even if it echoes a prior one - don't censor people Arun it's not cool bro :/

ignoring stopped with the sound of *ping*

@x's "you have only played in 38 games" :

First of all , i think it is ridiculous that people first see the other person's stats then decide "should i take his thread/post serious or not "
This thread represents my request for making forums a better place
what it got to do with my stats .. huh ?
you wanna see what i got ?
there will be 5 matches , 3 on 1vs1 strategic template
and 2 on europe map with standard settings and warlord distribution.
if you won the challenge , i will change my name to "x is my master"
if i won the challenge , you gonna change your name to "vostro is my master".
nobody can later refuse from his promise because , this bond will happen with the help of fizzer .

dare to challenge me if you think you can win.[nevermind , i love everyone ]
ignoring started with the sound of *ting*


@RvW's "Funny thing is, saying "do not reply here if you disagree" is a very good way to get replies from people who disagree with you. The fact that you still say it makes you incredibly naive or a troll. ":
so if some one is requesting others to not to fill out his thread with negative posts then according to you , he converted himself into a troll.
dude , i do not know what's your age but pls increase your understanding skills . [nevermind , i love everyone ]

and i agree that saying "do not reply here if you disagree" is a bad idea , ==> one should have said "do not reply here if you are not interested in this topic" followed by posting ""still if you reply you are a troll". <==



@"It's not an offence until Fizzer punishes you...!? I bet driving through a red traffic light is okay if no police officer sees you? " :

read it again : It's not an offence untill it get converted into something like pig shit.
the example you are giving is not appropriate to what we are discussing.

let me explain it through an appropriate example ;
{{{ most of the countries gives its people various rights,
one of which is "right to express" and "right to speech"

so since i have right to express , i can express my anger to anyone by the mode of killing him.
since i have right to speech , i can abuse anyone .

i can consider that no body can punish me because what i am doing is totally legal, but that is not the case .
when my expressions , and my speaking get converted something like pig shit , then i would be sent in jail , and this will be decided by the government , here the government is referred to fizzer .
}}}


@"If we would do things your way (only reply if you agree) each thread would only have one useful post (the first one), all others":
again , pls upgrade your understanding ,
i never said only reply if you agree , i had said do not reply if you are "against / not interested" in that topic.
now you can say that "vostro is mad, he just manipulate things to put his things in first order"
let me explain you the difference between disagree and against;
when people disagree from something , they put their views and opinions in front of other people , and discuss that matter to lead the world toward a good future .

when people are against something , they do not do civilized discussions , they just do violence .
on internet forums violence is often expressed with the posts like :
"hahhah you are troll"
"i blacklisted you"
some people just put a pace palm image...
there are many more ways."

@"Something tells me you're going to ignore me too":
since you are discussing out this thing , not behaved like a troll like x's post. there is no option for me to ignore your wordings.

^ this could be taken as an example of who disagrees from my views and who is against that.

@"three choices" :
well , as i already said you need to upgrade your understanding .
[nevermind , i am here on warlight to have a good time , not here to bring out bad points about someone , and i am just advising you, just like when a small brother advises the elder one.]


I know you are talking in "general",
but still i would like to reply on :

@"all of a sudden everyone wanted their own clan."
# The clan [coldblood] is not started by me .

@"so far, so good, but I think you're defeating the purpose if you just accept everyone in your new clan "
# This clan is only for good players , i will check them out while having the tryouts.

@"a lot of these are formed by people who seem to lack basic planning and leadership skills. Which means that every time someone thinks "oeh, I want a clan of my own", up springs a new thread. Then after thinking about it for ten minutes, they change their mind about some detail of the plan, abandon the old thread and create a new one (and then a few more)"
# i never did this , i am equipped with planning and leadership skills , but once again i would like to remind you that i am not [coldblood] clan's leader.

@"don't you dare post if you think this is a bad idea":
again you misunderstood me ,increase your understanding.

@"adults ,english and all other stuff related to this ":
i am 17 year 11 months old , and english is used up as my 2nd language.

@"Don't you think it's odd that on the one hand you're coming to Vostro's defence, yet on the other you use the phrase "Plenty of clan threads (before this recent influx of idiotic ones being formed)":

this thread is not about Plenty of clan threads , as it is only about making forums a better place .

while i also do not like it when there are several threads on the same topic, i would again like to clear :
i just created 1 thread related to my clan , and i can not stop other people.

@nike's "vostro asking to make the forum a better place when his clan has made multiple posts about the same topic. (spam) ":
read what it wrote above.

@ "vostro asking to make the forum a better place whnen he just said "pig sh*t", when bad language is not tolerated in Warlight. (swearing)

vostro admits his clan's threads are a place for troling when he says that "if fizzer would see that a thread is becoming a trolling thread he gonna lock it / delete it." Since many of his clan threads are now locked, it thus means vostro agrees his clan threads are for trolling.":
you are behaving like a troll who wanna keep himself busy by using manipulation powers of finding negative points about others .
i should not reply to your troll behavior but still i would like to tell you that ,fizzer has posted the reason below each thread which has been locked down .

you all realize all he did was say ppl shouldnt be jerks on the forum and that is exctly what you all did

^^ if you still disagree with me it would be better if you do not reply untill you read all the wall of text written up there .

* i should have written "if anyone still disagree with me "

i was being parodic. i've noticed a lot of times that the first reply to a new post has been simply "you have played Y number of games, you don't have the right to use these forums. and vostro, i know you've played more than 40 games, since you have many accounts.

i agree completely with fransisco vile's comment: there are many people using these forums to try to improve the game and create things, and they're often misguided, but there are a lot of psuedo-intellectuals like rvw and a lot of guttersnipes like nike, who treat these forums as a shooting gallery.

so like vostro said, if you aren't interested in a topic, you shouldn't reply. that way any topics you think are worthless would simply disappear. however, these people want to make themselves feel clever by attacking people who are either younger than them, speak english as a second language, or who just aren't quite as intelligent as them. and yeah, that's bullying, even though it comes under the guise of "critique".

the worst thing about it is that these bullies are completely witless and humourless themselves. so they aren't even entertaining.

vostro, how long did it take for you to type out that MASSIVE paragraph?

and X, i go inter-school debating in real-life, i guess its in my blood to argue with other people.

plus X, i doubt vostro's younger then me, i'm 15, and English is my second language too, and i don't think i'm ntelligent at all.

i never said you were.

and i don't doubt that the people i was talking about enjoy arguing for the sake of it, and are proud of that.

Christ, is it just me or was this whole thread created merely to instigate people hating on this guy, and thus validating his point.

Vostro, people are going to hate on every new clan. Deal with it. The internet is not a new invention.

@x:
thanks for making my believe stronger in the old saying "things can change if you really want them to get changed".
its really difficult and rare to catch out those moments of time when people on internet ultimately accept that they were wrong, and finally join the right side of the discussion.

@nike's "its in my blood to argue" AND "i doubt vostro's younger then me, i'm 15"
:pls do not ruin the word argue saying that its in your blood , because if it would be in your blood then you must have read the wall of text i had written up there .
A good Arguer never ever post his reply on a thread without carefully reading and analyzing out every single previous posts which has been made on the same thread.
tip for a kid : read the past posts , you will get to know my age.

@texasjohn's "Vostro, people are going to hate on every new clan. Deal with it" :

First of all , it would be great if i tell you that i have not made this thread just to defend new clans.
This thread is created to defend every present/future/past thread which is get/got/going to be attacked by countless trolls .

Dealing with a problem is simple , solving it to make a better future just rocks the dancing floor.

i would like to give you an example :
in this example i am relating

"people are going to hate on every new clan"
IS RELATED WITH
"Whenever people have guns in their hands they just shoot the tiger , thinking of the fact that tigers are our enemy and they will attack us whenever possible so kill them whenever you get the chance."

"my request for making forums a better place"
IS RELATED WITH
the "save tigers" campaign which is successfully running all over the world.

i have a horrible feeling rsp nike is a person who hates himself and takes it out on others

i have a horrible feeling rsp nike is a person who hates himself and takes it out on others

it would be good to make this into the Treaty of WL Forums.

players could sign it, and breaches could be reported

the treaty could be (in reality) a new set of rules governing the forum.

this could backfire though, as what make this forum so good is its lack of censoring and i wouldn't like a sort of 1985 scene, where the powers that be delete anything less then perfectly conforming to the rules

i hope u just mistyped.. 1984..

yeah i was in a quick real time game at the same time

Vostro:

@RvW's "Funny thing is, saying "do not reply here if you disagree" is a very good way to get replies from people who disagree with you. The fact that you still say it makes you incredibly naive or a troll. ":
so if some one is requesting others to not to fill out his thread with negative posts then according to you , he converted himself into a troll.
dude , i do not know what's your age but pls increase your understanding skills .

I said "incredibly naive or a troll". If you want I'll rephrase that to "boundless optimist or a troll", but either way, I didn't call you a troll.

Your example about what is or is not an offence makes no sense whatsoever... (And no, I don't mean your violation of trias politika by having government (instead of a judge) send someone to prison; that could just be a translation issue.)

I can't follow your distinction between "disagreeing" and "being against". It feels like you're trying to make a subtle distinction..., too subtle for you to explain in English. (If your native language happens to be Dutch, could you try to explain it again? Unfortunately I myself do not speak any other language well enough to discuss a subtle point.)

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x:

if you aren't interested in a topic, you shouldn't reply

It's not about people who aren't interested; this whole discussion is about people who are interested, but disagree with each other.