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US Election Thread: 2020-11-07 00:36:14


l4v.r0v 
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Someone really thought this was gonna happen lmao

Edited 11/7/2020 00:36:35
US Election Thread: 2020-11-07 01:42:48


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I predict that that Trump will win after a three month court battle.
US Election Thread: 2020-11-07 02:13:47


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"Software used to tabulate votes cast in 47 Michigan counties erroneously gave 6,000 votes to Joe Biden in Anterim County, according to state GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox.

"In Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates. The county clerk came forward and said 'tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the vote.' Since then, we have now discovered the 47 counties used the same software in the same capacity," she said, adding "Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots, and these counties that used the software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies."

"Of note, Trump won Antrim County in 2016 with 62% of the vote vs. 33% for Hillary Clinton."
US Election Thread: 2020-11-07 05:15:45


l4v.r0v 
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I predict that that Trump will win after a three month court battle.
Unlikely, his cases have so far been thrown (read: laughed) out of court. The only one that seems to have succeeded so far was in Philly, which led to a two-hour delay over whether the vote counters should stand 10 feet apart or 6 feet apart and affected exactly zero votes. There's actually been some hilarious exchanges from these cases, demonstrating just how little merit the arguments have:

My Google-fu is failing me, but this is a paraphrase of the transcript (from memory) over the bid to halt the count in Philadelphia (Trump campaign was alleging that observers were not being allowed when there were, in fact, official Trump observers in the room at the time):

Judge Diamond: Are there people in that room?

Trump lawyer: Yes.

Judge Diamond: Are there observers from the Trump campaign in that room in an official capacity?

Trump lawyer: Yes

Judge Diamond: I don't get it. What is your problem exactly?

<order denied>


If someone can find the official transcript, would be much appreciated!


Since you didn't bother to actually cite your quotes, here is a link from local media providing context: https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/antrim-county-vote-glitch-software-update/6194745002/

Because most counties in the state — especially smaller ones — use the Dominion Voting Systems equipment that Antrim County does, concerns were raised this week about whether other county results could have been posted with errors.

But that's not the case, according to the Department of State, which stressed in the news release that the votes were correctly tabulated and the printed tapes showing the results were also accurate in Antrim.

"In order to report unofficial results, county clerks use election management system software to combine the electronic totals from tabulators and submit a report of unofficial results," the release said. "Because the clerk did not update software, even though the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate results were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results."


How exactly does this software glitch make the case that Trump would be able to recover (at this point) 53 EVs in court? Are you trying to confuse people into believing baseless allegations of widespread fraud with a news story about an already-fixed software glitch that did not change ballot tabulation and had no impact on the official count?

Edited 11/7/2020 05:22:59
US Election Thread: 2020-11-07 16:37:40


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Sooooo, is this it?
US Election Thread: 2020-11-07 17:03:18


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The harry potter fans are the ones who vote for bernie, what are you on about knyte. Meanwhile, I, the tolkein fan, voted for kanye
US Election Thread: 2020-11-09 07:16:47


l4v.r0v 
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(scroll for the full story if your screen isn't big enough)

By the way, the Fake News media at Bloomberg has made a Trump lawsuit tracker (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-05/trump-election-lawsuits-filed-state-by-state) so you can follow along live as each case gets bounced out of court.

Edited 11/9/2020 07:18:50
US Election Thread: 2020-11-12 14:24:16


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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I found a prediction someone made.
I call it: "America on the way to autocracy."
How likely is it?

1. Numerous lawsuits for fake fraud allegations that drag on into December, parallel to Trump rallies.
2. Millions of Trump voters are incited and put pressure on the Republican legislatures of the Blue Wall to determine the electorate regardless of the outcome of the election. There is and is provided by the constitution (even if it has been confused with various SCOTUS judgments in both directions)
3. The legislatures comply with this request and set up republican electors.
4. The governor opposes this and sets up democratic electors
5. It goes in front of the SCOTUS.

From here on unpredictable

6. Assuming the SCOTUS decides for Trump, there will be riots
7. Trump puts this down on the basis of the Insurrection Act.
US Election Thread: 2020-11-12 18:08:11


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this could start a civil war tho kretoma
US Election Thread: 2020-11-13 08:26:59


JK_3 
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Fun fact: the normal people lost the election (time for a civil war!)
US Election Thread: 2020-11-13 23:44:52


l4v.r0v 
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Both autocracy and civil war remain exceedingly unlikely. The Trump legal cases are not dragging out the election; most are getting heard and/or dismissed very quickly, and the case most likely to swing a few votes (the PA deadline case) will have no material impact on the election either way.

Trump is refusing to concede but his legal teams are backing off (see: AZ, MI, PA). The legislative revolt (red states that went for Biden certifying results for Trump) remains an outside possibility but it would require a coordinated and transparently anti-American effort across multiple states (to flip 37 votes) and sink the political careers of anyone involved (these states are purple, hyperpartisanship is unpopular). So far, these officials' behavior largely indicates that state governments are not playing along with a coup plan.

There's a lot of noise going on to set up Trump TV, OAN, and Newsmax, and to lay the groundwork for future voter suppression laws, but the reality right now is that the Trump case is being thwarted almost across the board (outside hyperpartisan federal politics) by American institutions. We're heading toward a less-normal but still democratic and peaceful transition of power.

That said, if war does break out, fun excuse to get rid of the r*rals.
US Election Thread: 2020-11-14 12:56:55


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Okay interesting. What are r*rals thou?
US Election Thread: 2020-11-14 16:34:51


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I’m glad that my election prediction got two states wrong:
North Carolina and Ohio
US Election Thread: 2020-11-16 07:22:12


xch
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congratulations Biden?
US Election Thread: 2020-11-16 14:16:44


Dullahan
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knyte, how insensitive of you
US Election Thread: 2020-11-16 15:35:26


Des {TJC}
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Screw the r*rals
US Election Thread: 2020-11-16 16:52:36


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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I still have no idea what does this mean...
US Election Thread: 2020-11-17 05:36:48

Georg Friedrich Ferdinand, Prinz von Preußen
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Let Communism rule!!!

That's what I hear when I think of Democrats.
Basically, this country's political system is shit. We need another major party that isn't some extreme version of the Democrats.
US Election Thread: 2020-11-17 08:45:36


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just get rid of the winner-takes-all thing like an actual civilized country, then you'll get more
US Election Thread: 2020-11-17 10:11:56


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Here are the two houses of parliament of an actual civilized country where i just tend to live in:

"House of Representatives"


from left to right:
die LINKE (the left)
SPD (social democrats)
die Grünen (the greens)
CDU/CSU (the union of the two conservative parties)
FDP (close to libertarians i think)
AfD (the right)
white are members of parliament without party affilication

"Senate"


made up of the states governments.

Links if immages do not work:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundestag#/media/File:Bundestag18D.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesrat_of_Germany#/media/File:Bundesrat_Sitzverteilung.svg

Edited 11/17/2020 10:17:59
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