This "lynch all the lurkers" crap is why I lean towards you. But you're only my #2 suspect, Arun comes first. HHH is not a wolf at all, he's just a sorry villager who should have stuck to being a villager instead of Angel claiming stupidly

I want to lynch lurkers because that is the biggest wolf tell in the game. Do I need to explain it to you again??

Why do you think hhh is village? What is your tell? There are sobfew posts you should be able to be very specific for us. Why do you think he mase a false angel claim if he is village? Self preservation? Self preservation without any active wolf hunting is so obviously wolf.

Seriously you have to do better than this.

Mmkay, well I'm pretty confident in my choice that hhh is a villager. The fact that he says so little, even when accused is probably because of inactivity. If I'm right, isn't his whole "legacy" so to speak about him being quiet on the forums? What makes you so sure that he is a wolf? You are going off one single factor....silence. The reason I disagree with "lynch all the lurkers" is because I think we have bigger wolf potentials to worry about. Ones with influence, like arun and yourself.

Suspects:

1) Arun (For his unwarranted oppression)
2) Myself (For general wolfishness, but I believe I have spoken my guilt down)
3) His Balls (Seemingly suspicious, for pursuing inactive villagers instead of active wolves.)
4) Dr. Stupid (suspected under conspiracy, with no real facts.)

Hhh is here though. He is reading this. He keeps popping up to vote just in time. Yes he's always quiet. I dont care, we can't keep avoiding voting him.

Besides, its not just one thing anymore. Now we have this outlandish angel claim. It is laughably stupid and there is no reason to do it as a villager. I've asked him to explain who he saved each round. He won't because it would be too much effort for him to fake.

I Dont understand why its worth risking being wrong to lynch influential villagers. Influential villagers are presumably talking more. More chance for them to slip up and give us evidence.

A couple of posts ago you were saying you would just lynch the person you most believed to be a wolf. Now you are saying you would put that aside in order to get an influential wolf. Which is it?

I always want to just go for my top suspect.

Also, stop putting yourself on your own lists. Its too weird.

List of trolls

1) Lawlz(For trolling)
2) Lawlzicus Maximus (Suspected under conspiracy to troll)
3) National Socialist (Possible ironic troll, has not spoken yet somehow trolls?)
4) Dark Magnus (Confessed to trolling, has dissapeared. APB on his position)

It has been pointed out to me (thanks Timi!) that I forgot to note Kantos' role before he turned drunk. He was a villager then, too!

Oh and not to be missed...

A couple of posts ago you were saying you would just lynch the person you most believed to be a wolf. Now you are saying you would put that aside in order to get an influential wolf. Which is it?

Correct. The only people I'm sure of being a wolf are....nobody. But all my suspects have influence. So I didn't change my perspective. I still will lynch known wolves, and yet at the same time, influential ones. I don't believe HHH is a suspect in the slightest, just looking for self preservation. You forget, I was that way too...

He has claimed angel. Therefore we cannot vote him yet. I'm happy to after other suspects are lynched though. We should vote Kasparov or Ace Windu; both in the same tier as HHH.

Scratch that. We should vote Lawlz. He is refusing to vote with the village. He recently jumped up my suspicion list.

Overt wolves > anything else. If you dispute that you're not looking at the bigger picture (admittedly my mistake earlier in the game).

Oh shut up with your half assed argument against me. I don't vote because YOU tell me to, I vote for who I believe to be a viable option, like the rest of the village should. You are not confirmed in my eyes, and neither is his balls. Why should I listen to you at all Arun? You're not even on the same trust level as his balls, in fact the only reason I have for suspicion on His balls is his weak "Lynch the lurkers" argument at the near end of the game. YOU HOWEVER are trying to shove your motives and victims down other villagers' throats, and are now threatening a lynch if they disagree with you....If he never sounded wolfish, surely this should cast doubt to even the most optimistic.

LYNCH ARUN, THE OPPRESSIVE

Arun. What? He has claimed angel therefore we cannot vote him. What?? Have you lost your mind? Where the hell does the 'therefore' fit into that sentence. You say it like it is an obvious conclusion. The obvious conclusion is the claim is complete twaddle unless he backs it up with a clear and complete explanation of his night actions thus far. How can you be so easily swayed?

Put your kasp or ace Windu case forward then. You are still ploughing on with this idea that there is some sort of consensus in this regard. I havent seen any consensus, especially with regards ace.

I'd be happy to vote lawlz but hhh is too obvious to overlook any more.

Lawlz. Can you not see the logic in what I say regarding hhh.

Its like everyone is just selectively reading. Villagers b shouldn't do this. Wolves obviously try to so this.

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I see your logic, and raise you an "I disagree". Oh it makes sense alright, I just don't think it's the right choice

Lawlz. No the village should not independently vote for who they think is a wolf. If we stick together we might be wrong but at least we have a shot and lynching a wolf. If there is any kind of split vote we lose purely on numbers.

Come on man. Is this not sinking in?

What about lynching lurkers do you find weak? Explain. Please point out how that leads to a conclusion that im a wolf. I'm happy to debate. That's why I'm playing this game.

And you have also selectively overlooked my point about the obvious false angel claim not possibly being a village tell.

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What are you disagreeing to? That doing nothing is a very strong wolf tell?

You are somehow suggesting that my actions are more wolfish.

If I had sat and done a hhh all game you wouldn't be able to tell us apart. This is only good for the wolves. If all of us had sat and done a hhh you wouldn't be able to tell anyone apart and we would just have to guess. Also only good for wolves.

Villagers need to be active.

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If we stick together we might be wrong but at least we have a shot and lynching a wolf.

True, I agree with that, as I have the entire game, but there is bound to be points where people will disagree, and that can be a good thing. I'm not suggesting everybody vote randomly, I'm saying free vote is better than oppression. All I'm getting from Arun is 'Lawlz won't vote with me, there's proof he's a wolf. If you were village you would vote with me because I tell you too'

What about lynching lurkers do you find weak?

I see it as something to do towards the beginning, not the end.

Please point out how that leads to a conclusion that im a wolf.

I said it's possible, I don't fully believe it myself, but there's always the possibility you could be trying to distract from lynching real wolves (I.E Arun)

And you have also selectively overlooked my point about the obvious false angel claim not possibly being a village tell.

Is that directed at me or Arun? I think he's been a villager this whole time, and that angel claim was, again, self preservation.


One for Arun....

He has claimed angel. Therefore we cannot vote him yet.

Skunk and JSA said I was an angel, and they were/are confirmed villagers. Do you agree on not voting me?

What are you disagreeing to? That doing nothing is a very strong wolf tell?

I disagree in this specific case, not in general. I think looking back at his posts, and his past on the forums in general, he's very quiet. And while I agree it's the perfect cover for a wolf, I think he's genuinely not paying much attention. Hell I'm active as hell on forums and even I only checked Wild West (Silver's second attempt at a wolves duplicate) a grand total of 4 times

You fucking idiot. You vote WITH VILLAGE. You DO NOT just vote who you think is best. You debate the case, and go with the consensus, be it a suggestion from me or anyone else. This is suspicious. Your suspicion of me without any actual case is beyond ridiculous.

His Balls see sense! Fine, discount Ace. Clavicus spoke with me about Kasparov st least! As long as there is ANY risk we must take a different route. This is the turning point!

>No Case

Lurk Moar

You have no case? Why the fuck would you vote me than? Wolf.