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Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 16:05:06


JK_3 
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Need a clan member leaderboard of who has donated the most.


That really depends on how much income one has available. Someone with 1B/sec can donate 50B no problem, while someone with 1k/sec could never make such donations.


Are there any restrictions on the frequency of giftings?


Once every 20 hours, and probably also size limited.

Level Updates:


Ty so much Z!!


Looks like all the ore bonuses will be easy to hit for anyone one their second playthrough, which is nice.

yeah, those times are not hitable on a first run unless you bought a lot of powers.


And, have you noticed that the "beta" is gone? Apparently, this is meant to be the first regular version of the idle mode.


Oh wow, WZI is finally out of idle mode!! And that while Fizzer just added so much stuff.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 16:06:54

Sefer
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@transdimensional ultrasonic waffle
The android app seems to crash for me.

Did you start a new level on the site and then try to play it in the app? It doesn't look like the update is on the Play Store yet, and we probably won't be able to play new levels on android until it is.

Which means no trying out the new ad options until it's updated, alas.

Edited 8/9/2021 16:09:59
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 16:17:30

Sefer
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Just checked AP on normal Triskelion vs hardened, since it's the only one I don't have reduced AP on to make that comparison. The AP reward is close, but not exactly, 3x the normal reward. I once checked the expected times to complete levels (run by Fizzer's AI) vs AP rewards, and the expected AP per day held pretty steady across all levels; based on that I'd guess that hardened levels are expected to take 3x as long as their normal counterparts.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 16:26:24

Phoenix
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If you spent AP on an infrequently used AP Upgrade that now has it's cost reduced, do you get that AP back? Or do you need to reset AP? Or is it lost forever?

You dont get refunds ever, unless you lost AP due to a bug (i had that once, but Fizzer gave me some free AP, which was very kind of him).

I have a hard time applying this here. Sure, this version update is clearly not a bug, and while no shop will refund me money if an article I bought years ago now is sold for cheaper. But for this game where EVERYTHING is under Fizzer's control, I see not a single argument, why players that invested in those now price-reduced advs shouldn't get the back the difference of what they spent and what it is worth now. Especially given that the players were effectively testing a game mode for Fizzer the last months.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 16:29:41


Kratt 
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That really depends on how much income one has available. Someone with 1B/sec can donate 50B no problem, while someone with 1k/sec could never make such donations.


Doh, you're talking like everyone will be stuck on the same level for all eternity, it'll even out over time.
Besides the requests are so easy to fulfill, it is all about who is online at the time.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 16:48:31

Krulle 
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@Phoenix :
If you demand a refund for reduced AP prices, I demand a collection of AP from those who benefited from the cheap AP prices in earlier version where the AP price has been increased.
(yes, I am thinking of the extra AP upgrade)
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:05:06

Sefer
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Just hit my first mortar. It costs money to load, loading takes an hour, it can target territories within 5 spaces, it has 4 shots, and it takes 20% off the armies needed to conquer a territory if it hits. No idea what the odds of hitting are, not sure if I'm going to bother using it since I expect to be through this level pretty quickly. I see two advancements relating to mortars, one in Phase 3 that increases the mortar damage by 10% and can be upgraded to 100% in 5% increments. It costs 1403 to unlock. If all mortars do that 20%, then fully upgraded it would do 40% damage instead. Phase 4 has Auto-Mortar that will load and fire a mortar at the "best targets" every 120 minutes, upgradable to 10 minutes in increments of 10. That costs 2601 to unlock.

Edit: Decided to try out the mortar. The first use gives you a free Time Warp so you can fire immediately. It shows you the odds of viable targets on the maps; I saw odds running from 70% for 2 away to 15% at max range. Ended up being a little more valuable than buying mercs, but not much. Second shot would cost about 30% more than the first.

Edited 8/9/2021 17:10:46
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:18:00

Sefer
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Ursa:Luna - Superpower - "When checked, all powers except Multi-Level will consume 5 powers but give you 10x the benefit!"
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:36:10

Tulsi 2020 
Level 62
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If your going to seriously rebalance things like this could you include a free ap reset? Increase item sell value is not nearly as useful if you cant buy crafting ingredients from the shops at a reasonable price. Or people who have bought those infrequently purchased perks now having the ap locked up and so on. Like personally the 150 coins wont kill me but other players don't or cant spend real money on this.

Also I cant seem to update the android client yet, either on classic or idle.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:43:01

Costanza
Level 22
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Perhaps a stupid question but is the app released for iOS? I’m running 5.13 and the app isn’t available for update at App Store.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:44:17


JK_3 
Level 63
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The app update(s) usually come 3-14 days after the website updated.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:47:06

Costanza
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Thx for info!
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 17:54:40

Phoenix
Level 25
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The game only updated a few hours ago and on both app stores an update has to go through a bunch of (automated) checks before the new version becomes available to the public. Just wait a bit (more).
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 18:07:00


JK_3 
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Muli just revealed this:



@Z can you update your list?
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 18:07:41


Z 
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One moment
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 18:17:02


krinid 
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Unfortunately we didn't get more detailed stats on Money income from Territories per sec & Money income from Bonuses per sec.

So we know whether that +20% Bonus or +30% Territory Tech is worth getting at the moment. Quite often I get the Tech, see my income go up 0.3K/sec and regret having spent all the bars/items.

The Draft fixed+sliding components is nice to see though.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 21:49:35


asdfgh
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So I'm guessing the harder levels adds x2 power ups, that will be nice. Hope one of these has another Multi level power up.

Was just about to finish my last level before I ascend and now I'm not sure what do to. I guess I'll start the hard ones as they have more AP than starting over with the small ones. Any thoughts?
Update 5.14: 2021-08-09 21:50:02


JK_3 
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Quite often I get the Tech, see my income go up 0.3K/sec and regret having spent all the bars/items.


Late techs should have been made better to make feel you less sad about spending those bars/items.


Hope one of these has another Multi level power up.


Nope, KPX was not duped.


Was just about to finish my last level before I ascend and now I'm not sure what do to. I guess I'll start the hard ones as they have more AP than starting over with the small ones. Any thoughts?


Play the hard levels since you have them unlocked now.

Edited 8/9/2021 21:51:31
Update 5.14: 2021-08-10 00:58:51

dwaynerudd 
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Anyone figure out how market cost increases work? Does increase base on number of items bought (eg first 10k cost x, next 10k cost xy, etc), or does increase base on number of times bought (eg, first purchase regardless of number costs x, second purchas costs xy, etc). Second may still be interesting for using marketplaces strategically. First makes marketplaces pretty useless other than tactical deployment.
Update 5.14: 2021-08-10 01:01:00


TheGreatLeon 
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Do we know if the hardened levels are still 20% base mercs? I really like the idea of a 6.66% base merc challenge but it would be an absolute disaster to start playing these like all the others and find out too late.
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