I don't think MASTER clan is colluding. If you have any access to M'H-internal chats, you'll notice that Norman and others strategize a lot (in terms of timing, template selection) to maximize bang-for-buck in M'H participation in Clan Wars.

My bet is that M'H is targeting templates on which they can expect higher win rates (not sure if they're even intentionally avoiding MASTERs), while MASTER clan is targeting templates that do not give people cancer. And so they become ships passing each other in the night, without direct clash.

edit: mixed up CL/CW

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That was actually fun read, I give 8/10 :D
Keep it up!

wow wiszsizsdz you still play?

glad to see youv left one crappy clan for another

It looks like MH is actively avoiding Masters, while Masters is actively avoiding Python.
Stay tuned for more!

I don't think MASTER clan is colluding. If you have any access to M'H-internal chats, you'll notice that Norman and others strategize a lot (in terms of timing, template selection) to maximize bang-for-buck in M'H participation in Clan Wars.

Oi!

I'm the inventor of the M'Hunters bomb meta. Normally people play a template and each new strategy gets gradually better but I scratched my head and thought that the old ways of playing the bomb was inferior to something completely different. I'm pretty proud about that. It took hours of work to establish the meta and some of my clanmates, whom I have initially trained, have built upon it and are probably better than me now. I also made a written guide and a video guide for my clanmates where I explained the thought process. We activelly discuss bomb games on our Discord and are thinking together how to solve certain tough cases. For us each bomb template is a puzzle which we try to solve.

https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=919
The only thing you can see here is that we had 4 opponents in the bomb so we couldn't join with more. :(

https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=920
No bomb :( Scandal!

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Now I didn't bother to go further back in time and I didn't include timeslots where it wasn't obvious.

So in other words, you excluded timeslots which did not support your thesis?

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Are you seriously suggesting that out of the 900+ slots only the last 5 or so support my thesis?
Now that IS funny.

It is a simple algorytm. You start with a (random) chain of how much you like the given template. If you win a lot on the template, it goes up in your chain. If you lose a lot, it goes down. Start with two good clans and two bad clans. What happens is, those good clans will evade each other and bad clans will play the same templates.

Are you seriously suggesting that out of the 900+ slots only the last 5 or so support my thesis?
Now that IS funny.

You said that you left out timeslots "where it wasn't obvious." You pasted the last timeslot 925 which somehow supported your thesis but conveniently left out the timeslot right before that https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=924 where it looks like M'Hunters was actively targeting a 100% playing rate against either Masters or Python.


However truth be told, some of my clanmates were moving into 2v2 explicitely to face the Master clan since they didn't like seeing the Master clan farming free wins against either no opponents at all or a close to 100% winrate against TSFH...

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So yeah, they aren't cheating, it came up naturally.

Yes, I had a personal experience when Masters fought The Boiz Army in 2v2 together. (My teammate ended up cussing me out that game and I left the clan and put him on my block list)

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You said that you left out timeslots "where it wasn't obvious." You pasted the last timeslot 925 which somehow supported your thesis but conveniently left out the timeslot right before that https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=924 where it looks like M'Hunters was actively targeting a 100% playing rate against either Masters and Python.

That's a terrible example, it's SE vs MA, those two templates are not equal by any means.
I see also you picked ONE slot which kinda may support your theory.

However truth be told, some of my clanmates were moving into 2v2 since they didn't like seeing the Master clan farming free wins against either no opponents at all or a close to 100% winrate against TSFH...

Did they?
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=921
Don't see it.

Lol we just joined the template we prefer every time. Strat mme > mme ld ma > se autodist > se picks > mme commanders = se bomb

Though that explains why I play so many MASTERS on MA.

Masters play non-SE temps
MH plays SE temps and avoids Masters

They’ll naturally won’t have much fighting between them.

Lol we just joined the template we prefer every time. Strat mme > mme ld ma > se autodist > se picks > mme commanders = se bomb

Btw I found this pearl by the same guy:

So from that to second favourite template in CW?
Please.

With a little research on Discord it's obvious what Master members think of their "second favourite" template.

They prefer the template because they win it a lot.

They prefer the template because they win it a lot.

Because MH doesn't play it? :D
Hmm...

Because MH doesn't play it? :D

Yes. They reached Nash equilibrium.

So they prefer the template because their main competition avoids it, doesn't matter if the template is garbage, sucks etc (quoting Master members) and can take over an hour to finish.

Sounds terrible, sounds like torture. Sure it's worth it?

I’m still in Masters’ private discord from when I was a member. I can confirm that they are colluding the MH to get top positions in CW.

let whichever clan play whatever they want, it doesn't matter.

Well, it increases your odds of fighting either of the clans.