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The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-15 23:00:41


blackdog
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In two hours there will be a drinking session. Noob will host it for the public commmunify. If you are inclined to say hello it is possible. Me and noob will drink for the rest of the evening.

This was an awful event and we wish you deal with it in a healthy matter. I stead of beating the hell out of a kid.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 00:57:29

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i am staying at boston in hotel 2 blocks from the finish line, i could feel the shaking and could hear the bomb as it exploded, was super scary and as i looked outside my hotel room i could see people running away from a cloud of smoke, 6 hours later my hotel is on lockdown with cops on all floors
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 01:28:26


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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Come drink and chat with us. Remembering those killed and hurt today in the bombing. All are welcome to come chat!

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The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 03:09:16


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Firstly, I do not diminish the deep hurt which was inflicted on the victims and their families and friends. I utterly condemn any form of terrorism (home grown or external agents) against innocent civilians especially children.

However, it is ironic that a city that has a large population of Irish Americans is the victim of a terrorist attack when the same groups of Irish Americans were happy to donate to IRA funds in support of an ideal and conflict that they didn't really understand. The IRA would then use that money to fund terrorist attacks in Northern Ireland and on mainland Britain to bomb high streets and even a funeral where the victims were not politicians or armed services but just ordinary folk and children. They bombed the Conservative Party conference at Brighton in the early 80s but they didn't diminish the resolve of the politician but cemented them. At that conference there would have been ordinary workers: hotel staff, chefs, waiters and other service staff who had no power over the troubles in Northern Ireland. Did those workers deserve to die? Can you right a wrong with further violence? Is revenge productive?

So all forms of terror attacks are wrong and do not serve any purpose but to maim, kill, frighten and anger people. No peace or settlement will be found from this. Before you subscribe to some violent ideal that leads to terror attacks you have to think of the victims and their families and how it would affect you if your family were hurt.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 04:41:24


Gnullbegg 
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What the actual fuck Wordsworth. Did you have to leave that middle paragraph in there? Was that really neccessary?
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 05:18:23


ARC-77 
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I had a friend run in the marathon today. Thank God he and his Coach were alright.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 05:27:29


Aranka 
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Actually yes it is necessary Gnullbegg.

He's not trying to argue that those people were guilty of something and/or deserved to be bombed. Nothing would actually merit a punishment of being blown apart by explosives.

On the other hand though, since it's now an event closer to their home (Boston,USA) people tend to get emotional.
And if emotional they lose context and are unable to put things into perspective.

And oh yeah btw....if you get furious about an innocent 8 year old dying.....better get annoyed at your own government for letting children die needlessly because of their religious conservative approach to stem cell research.
For further info see the children's hospital in Boston site:
http://stemcell.childrenshospital.org/treating-patients/
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 06:02:02

NZPhoenix (AHOL) 
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aranka i was going to write something mean to you instead i want to say we <3 you.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 06:02:47


professor dead piggy 
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"Nothing would actually merit a punishment of being blown apart by explosives."

No, but I can think of someone I wouldnt be overly upset to see it happen to.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 06:37:04


Wilfred Owen 
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Firstly, no offense was intended and I apologise if any genuine offense was caused.

I felt it necessary to look at the big picture of global terrorism that is not a recent occurrence. It has been going on for decades. Many groups who were aloof from the violence have been funding terrorism and I hope now that they have developed some empathy or sympathy, some shame and some regret at funding these acts of violence.

My point was aimed at all sympathisers and supporters to these terrorists that they should take responsibility as much as the terrorists themselves. Stop supporting them and stop funding them!

We are exercising our rights of free speech and I accept your (Gnullbeggs) right to ctiticise my point of view but not to deny my right to speak.

I did not criticise the victims or justify the violence in Boston.

I simple make a point about society taking blame as there are people amongst our communities who think it is okay to support violence against other groups who are not like us simply because they are not like us. How many care about the 29 or so dead in Mogadishu? Or care as much? How many Irish Americans cared about blood spilt in the British Isles? Only if they were Catholic Irish?

I think we have to be more sympathetic to other human beings and not just see other peoples as demonised or irrelevant faceless strangers.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 07:17:23


professor dead piggy 
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You don't have a "right to free speech" this is the internet not america.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 07:29:08


Wilfred Owen 
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Firstly, I am not American and therefore to not claim those rights.
Secondly, who is stopping me from speaking here?
Thirdly, what law is there that denies me to speak on the internet?

I'm not sure what country you hail from Piggy where you think you are right to deny me free speech. Most nations i understand of signed up to the UN international human rights charter which includes freedom of speech.

So I freely say fuck you! :P

Although, Fizzer has powers to deny my rights on this website alone. :)
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 08:36:10

SMD4FREE
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boston i thought you retired
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 10:13:05


Accept my Surrender
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I hate this internet tactic of comparing larger events or events happening elsewhere in the world to what is happening in Boston. Of course I know thousands of people have died in Syria, Somalia, and basicly all around the world. I feel just as bad for those people as I do for the victims of the Boston bombing, but stop trying to water down the loss of these people and accept that this is a tragedy as well!
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 10:16:01


[WM] Anonymous 
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When i heard about this i was thinking of who will be called responsable for that, and my indecision was between sirian or north korean "terrorist"...
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 10:27:07


Aranka 
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But we don't whine on about the Syrian or Somalian people either now do we ?
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 11:18:16


Accept my Surrender
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Aranka I do not feel like getting into an argument with you as we are both hard set on our opinions. I do feel sad for people around the world, but I will admit I have a bias towards Americans closer to home as do all people to their respective countries. Does this mean that I do not care about the thousands of civilians who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan due to out invasions or the loss of thousands in Syria to the ongoing civil war? No, I hate that these people could not be saved and I hate even more that their killers will not be brought to justice.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 12:01:24


Addy the Dog 
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Don't dig yourself in any deeper Aranka. I speak from near-identical experience. Not that I regret very much of what I said.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 12:25:33


Addy the Dog 
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I weeped today.


I as well weep today.


I would be raging right now if we weren't friends, Boston. There are a lot of things I could say to these, but foremostly, you shouldn't be co-opting a tragedy to talk about yourself. It's unbecoming, at best, egotistical at worst. If there's a time for personal anecdotes about these events, that time is long after the dust has settled.
The awful that we do to each other.: 2013-04-16 13:43:22


Aranka 
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Catbus....I will keep on saying my opinion.

Just like everyone else, people have a right to say their opinion. Be this a welcome one or not.
Hell, I'm even oke with people denying the holocaust. I mean if creationists are allowed to be so deluded that the earth is 6400 years old then some wacko's can believe the holocaust didn't happen. So long as the latter is not being coupled with demands against human rights it's all fine in my book.
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