So much for the accusation by some of you (namely l4v.r0v) that TSFH clan/community was in any way accepting or even "inducing" cheating in game.
I never made this accusation. I said TSFH, like any similar online social grouping, creates social incentives to mistreat others, like repeatedly taking cheap pot-shots and defending the cheater when someone outside the in-group catches cheating by someone in your in-group; this isn't unique to TSFH, similar phenomena occur for most Warzone clans (see; CORP around Dutch Desire's racism, M'Hunters around their members' cheating, MASTER clan around Boston, The Lost Wolves around Semicedevine).
This was in response to Kenghis's claim that TSFH is egregious in terms of making its members worse people; I countered that there's nothing special about TSFH in this regard and that the problems he highlights are just the results of selective processes in human social spaces. Push come to shove, you have social stakes that force you to make moral trade-offs- about being nice to people and telling the truth, or about attempting to preserve your reputation by creating an insincere apology as a cheap excuse to defame the person who found you out. The value people place on online communities, belonging, and having a desirable place in the pecking order causes TSFH to trigger the same toxic and destructive behavioral patterns as do cliques in high school. People decide to become a little bit worse in order to fit in better with others, even though none of them individually
want to be worse people or want others to be worse people. Because doing the right thing has worse social consequences. It's the same principle as your offer to restitute those you had cheated if they asked you and provided a reasonable accounting, which you didn't follow through on when asked to: you reaped a social benefit from making the offer but paid little to no social cost to refusing to follow through.
When the rational decision is to lie or to generate public non-apologies so you can bury unsubstantiated attacks against me, then even upstanding stalwarts like you choose to do so, repeatedly. This is just the reality of how groups of people work: wanting to be liked by others is part of what motivates bad behavior in humans. In short, people make people worse.
Why did you put quotes around "inducing"? Who are you quoting?
is there enough toilet paper for this amount of words-diarrhea?...
With your attention span, reading comprehension, understanding of social sciences, and command of rhetoric, clearly you're not getting much use out of your humanities degree. Perhaps you could use it to soak up your own non-contributions.
Edited 10/15/2021 08:02:23
