Yes I'm doing WZIB & Hard Copper with each super (mostly for fun since I'm not trying to get all the insanes right now).

Xeno has more than 134,000 starting ap, thus can super near instantly.

@Ivan, I hear ya, doing Hard Creek & WZIB can break up the monotony of hundreds of SAsc's, lol

@Xeno, I totally missed that post ... congrats, you actually did it. Not sure I understand the message about digging still being boring tho? With the dig speed buffs you added, should be as simple as enable auto-dig, wait 3 mins, take the Epics & Rares, chuck the rest, move on. No? Unless you're upgrading all the UC, C & P's as well? In which case it'd be super tedious.

And knowing that you have actually done it now, I can just point people to you when they ask about "officially finishing Idle", lol ... b/c folks always ask me when I'm doing 134k and I've always said I won't b/c it's not worth it. And even if I did, pretty sure someone would just come along and say "oh but the real Idle completion requirement is actually XXXXXX" which would take another 10,000 SAsc's. I suppose unlocking all Adv's to Max from starting AP except Idle Time is a potential category to add for "official completion", but that's actually fairly easily achievable (esp once you have 134k, lol) so not a huge deal. I think someone threw out "1 year of Idle time", which is laughable, b/c it's obvious that as soon as you get it, they'll just say "it's 10 years Idle time now, keep trying", lol

Besides, even if Fizz did ever add on more Idle levels, it would be too easy with our stats. And if a new phase beyond SAsc is added (ie: not just more levels), he'd likely do something equally player abusing like Asc->SAsc where all artis/adv's get wiped, such as wiping out all SAsc buffs. Tbh, I wouldn't mind it if instead of wiping them all, you cashed them in for "Mega-ascension" buffs.

Imagine Mega-Ascension, where all the levels from Tutorial through Hex are 100x harder (100x more armies, same army camps, merc counts, etc) and 10 new levels that are 1000x harder. And you upgrade Insane artifacts to Ridiculous artifacts, and cash in your SAsc buffs to unlock the next phase of Adv's. 1 SAsc buff unlocks 1 Adv for additional upgrade %. So IACP could increase beyond 500% up to 1000% for example.

I guess it still doesn't solve your situation though where you could still SAsc unlimitedly and thus get every buff at start of Mega-Ascension. But you're the outlier so shouldn't be a significant factor for design of new content.

Well, I could do 1 insane every 2.5 hours or so if I try harded it by just doing HCCC and super ascending. Just takes too much time/effort/clicking so I'm just doing hex 2-3 a day w/o doing a super. Takes a long time to upgrade the ~260 artifacts that you get since the game slows down massively with 150+ artifacts on different upgrade timers but it's overall less tedious since I stop doing it after a day or 2 with no remorse.

Also, considering I triple check that I actually select all my artifacts, so I don't accidentally chuck an insane or legendary. Nahh, hard pass on playing "where is waldo?" with 300 artis to be able to super (I know it's not really hard). I tend to get 0 epic and 0 rares a lot too when doing Hex and that kills me inside too :(. My laptop resolution is low too (720p) so I have less columns too which makes it a pain too when selecting artis. This was the reason I had a hard cap and chucked a few insane artis on purpose to not go above 14 the OCD checking all artis were selected was real lol.

tl;dr it's boring to just play to dig for the sake of digging even if they are instant digs.

I started messing with crafting to get me more motivated via updating my old spreadsheet's crafting tabs.

So maybe "beating idle" means making your computer lock from going so slow. Can Fizzer create more upgrades that add ram to your laptop?

Well, there is a memory leak so even if I had 32-64GB of ram (I have 8GB) I would be out of ram in a few more hours anyway. But I don't think the artifact thing is a memory issue. Considering that the browser tab hard locks for 10 seconds I would think that the artifact slowdown is more CPU bound if anything lol but not really bothered to debug the plausible cause.

@Ivan0 Why do you have two insane TWs?

I have three insane time warps, so that no matter how fast I super I always have one off of cooldown.

When you super does it remove all of your artifacts from the active slots?

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it's slots the first three you click on, so click artis on cool down last.

270 supers +1700%ap, 32 slots, 5 dig speed, 16700 start ap

12 super ascensions
- 6 extra slots
- +150% AP

Current rollout is:
- Insane Alloy Values
- Insane Army Cache Boost
- Legendary Cache Boost*
- Legendary Army Camp Boost
- Legendary Supercharge Army Camp
- Legendary Time Warp

*next Insane artifact

I continue to add one Epic from digging in addition to the two free Epics for a total of three Epics per super-ascension. I have done the math to add one slot next super-ascension and then it will be nothing but AP% boons for the foreseeable future.

I have super-ascended a seventh time.

Boon taken: +25% AP

Total boons: +125% AP, +2 artifact carryover

Artifacts carried over:

* Insane Army Cache Boost
* Legendary Alloy Values
* Legendary Supercharge Army Camp
* Legendary Army Camp Boost

(same artifacts as last time)

280 supers +1725%ap, 32 slots, 5 dig speed, 17600 start ap

Supered a second time. 2 +25
I got 8 legendary idle times to get A$B and AV to insane and although I said I wouldn't, I figured, screw it I got 2 slots and soon to be two insanes, too much of a match not to super.

3rd map in and already regretting it.

I'd love to have saved that SAC or anything else but I hate running out of mercs so until I get enough additional mercs to carry me through, I will stay with the +25% AP.
At least the army Cache should help and the Insane AV means I don't need to be so concerned with spending AP on AV and discounted Mercs till I am done with Additional Mercs. When I have enough mercs to carry me through as I reach levels, then I'll probably consider saving some more artifacts.

Maybe the problem is I do hardened levels before I should, maybe a different strategy this time. Meh, who knows. Other than the Shadow, as I understand it, he knows.

Hello

??? : start of the game ("superascend zero") (when?)

~20 juin 2022 : superascend 1

10 juil 23 : superascend 2

01 janv 24 : superascend 3


It is today for me.
I keep legendary triple strike (after legendary alloy value and army cach boost)

I think i spend many time one this gamee. Maybe 1 hour by day.. again a time, i don't understand how it is possible to be at 200 super ascend.
Well, so.

SAsc Date Days taken

#1 Slot 4/10/22 Beta
#2 +25% AP 10/20/22 193 days
#3 +25% AP 11/27/22 38 days
#4 Slot 1/21/23 55 days
#5 Slot 3/9/23 47 days
#6 +25% AP 9/6/23 181 days
#7 Slot 10/6/23 30 days
#8 +25% AP 11/4/23 29 days
#9 Slot 11/26/23 22 days
#10 +25% AP 12/19/23 23 days
#11 Slot 1/2/24 14 days

A super ascension in two weeks felt rushed. I only ascended once with 5 Hex levels. I think once I buff the +25% enough to not need to ascend, I'll feel less rushed. I'm guessing around 200-250% +AP.

Edited 1/3/2024 21:59:27

290 supers +1750%ap, 32 slots, 5 dig speed, 18500 start ap

Advice please.
So I'm finally at high enough to super.
I have 4 leg (av, Sac, Ts, acb.) and epic merc discount and A$b. Do I wait to get 1 insane or take 3 leg. Thinking about starting upgrades on epics/rares and sacrifice ts due to getting epic next run. But not sure

Edited 1/5/2024 20:11:54

Chucking a leg is rough, especially on your first SA, but digging up another 3 epics is ~2 months worth of digging at +50% dig speed (max P4 advancement). Digging up another 8 epics is ~5.5 months worth of digging. You can shave some of that time off with HChina done and/or the CW dig speed boost. 3x leg is going to be stronger than 1x insane and 1x leg for any of your current legs.

If you go for an insane, I would suggest A$B, any of your other options aren't really going to move the needle much. If you go for 3x legs, I would suggest AV, SAC, and A$B. Really up to you as to whether you want to flip on auto dig and walk away for a few months.

Edited 1/6/2024 23:48:53