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❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:03:37


Dr. Stupid 
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VOTE: GREEN
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:33:30


his balls. 
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Nice summary taco.

I have both green and taco as villagers at the moment.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:39:14


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Dr. Stupid is a viable target. Time to vote him. People, if you've voted Green, change. Vote Dr. Stupid preferably, but Eliza is good too.

Edited 10/29/2014 18:41:54
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:42:36


Ace Windu 
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He's not a viable target for me yet, explain please.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:52:14


Fan the Apostle
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I got something for you to be entertained while waiting for posts :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsIbnoVUcdU
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:55:15


Lawlz
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I don't trust G. @run at all...
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 18:57:41


Ace Windu 
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He's confirmed villager, please read the thread. Immediate scumread on DD.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 19:24:01


Lawlz
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Okay, but that doesn't make him right.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 19:31:19


Ace Windu 
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Your use of the word trust is the problem.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 19:31:53


Landalf
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Talking taco summary pretty good.

Now.. The villagers' chances aren't that good, especially if they are decimated by death (lynching, wolves, etc).. The following is a mathematical explanation of the chances of the "wolf" winning the game:

In 2006, the computer scientists Braverman, Etesami and Mossel proved that without detectives and with perfect players the randomized strategy is optimal for both citizens and mafia. They showed that when there are a large number of players to give both groups similar probability of winning, the initial number of mafiosi m need to be proportional to the square root of the total number of players P, that is {\textstyle m \propto \sqrt{P}}.[43] With a simulation, they confirmed that 50 mafiosi would have almost a 50% chance to win among 10,000. The Mafia's chance of victory is

W(m, P) \approx \frac{m}{\sqrt{P}},

which is a good approximation when the right hand side is below 40%. If any detectives are added to the game, Braverman et al. proved that the number of mafiosi must remain at a fixed proportion of the total number of players for their chance of winning to remain constant.[Note 20].
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 19:32:16


Landalf
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❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 20:06:20


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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I don't care. Let's just kill lurkers and scum.

Guys, you are not voting. Waiting until late to vote marks you out as scum!!!

If you are village, YOU MUST VOTE ONE OF THE 2 TARGETS. Don't let the wolves make a late kill.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 20:31:37

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	A Talking Taco		has voted for			Silver		
	Ace Windu		has voted for					
	Alias09			has voted for			Alias09		
	bdh1998			has voted for					
	CharlieBrown		has voted for					
	Clavicus Vile		has voted for			Silver		
	Coaleyes		has voted for			Green		
	Dectective Duck		has voted for			Eliza		
	Dom			has voted for					
	Dr. Stupid		has voted for			Green		
	Ehrmantraut		has voted for					
	Eliza			has voted for					
	Frankdeslimste		has voted for			Ehrmantraut		
	G. Arun			has voted for					
	GeneralGror		has voted for			Eliza		
	Genghis			has voted for					
	Green			has voted for			Kasparov		
	his balls.		has voted for					
	John Smith		has voted for			Dr. Stupid		
	Kasparov		has voted for					
	Kellen the Conquerer	has voted for					
	Landalf			has voted for			Alias09		
	Lord Veigar		has voted for					
	Mayor Sonnen		has voted for			Landalf		
	MoOoOoOoO		has voted for					
	rento			has voted for			Green		
	Semicedevine		has voted for			Green		
	Silver			has voted for					
	Tactical Incursion	has voted for					
	Taisho			has voted for					
	Traintown		has voted for			Alias09		
									
									





Total:
Green - 4
Alias09 - 3
Eliza - 2
Silver - 2
Dr. Stupid - 1
Ehrmantraut - 1
Kasparov - 1
Landalf - 1





DEADLINE: 22PM (UK TIME) THURSDAY 30/10/14 - 23 hours from now
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 20:34:37

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Detective Duck is giving me goosebumps.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 20:49:33


Dr. Stupid 
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A few G. Arun quotes:

1. Opinions will be discussed here and I will talk to each potential lynchee in private.
2.Dr. Stupid is a viable target. Time to vote him.

For the record, no opinions about me have been discussed, nor has G. Arun contacted me in private.

Edited 10/29/2014 20:50:24
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 20:51:19


Ace Windu 
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People I'm not liking the look of:

Semicedevine - page 11, his posts were bizarre.
Alias - page 11, self-voting is very bad.
Traintown - page 11, immediate alias vote looks and sounds strange to me.
Landalf - page 13/14, gives me bad vibes.
Detective Duck - page 14, explained in thread.

With regards to lynching lurkers, I still support it. The point of policy lynching lurkers is to get everyone to engage and participate in the game so perhaps lynching a lurker/inactive may be good on day 1 to drive the point home that if you don't play you'll be killed quickly.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 21:36:59


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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I have stated that Green is an unlikely wolf. People have still voted for him. Notably, Dr. Stupid directly ignored my instruction and voted him.

Ace is following my line of thought but today, our options are limited.

VILLAGERS. Vote Eliza, Alias or Dr. Stupid

This concerns you, Dr. Stupid? Explain your actions than.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 21:42:07


Lawlz
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All I'm saying is, because G. @run is confirmed it doesn't make him correct. His guesses are as good as the rest of the villagers. So don't just blindly follow, put some effort into forming your own opinions and thoughts
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 21:45:40


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Duck, of course discussion is essential. But this turn, we have little intel. My strategy is as good as any. Disagree? Give me a better target. Until then, VOTE ELIZA, STUPID or ALIAS.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-10-29 21:53:27


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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1) Yet now you've posted it, it is useless to us. Redundant strategy :/
2) Yep, the wolves know who each other are.
3) How the hell can we postpone?! Before looking into mathematical game theory, I suggest reading the rules. But thanks for the input. Nice to see some form of discussion.

What I want to do is kill inactives and scummy people. It may also be possible to postpone kills. For this I need special support. Seers and angels should contact me. I am a confirmed villager. PM me if you are a special and we can work things out.


Thanks you for changing your vote.

Edited 10/29/2014 21:54:02
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