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❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 04:05:08


John Smith
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Okay, to my defence:
I am a villager, and have been since the beginning of the game. I am a first time player, and still trying to get to grips with the idea. I cannot put up an analysis, as I don’t have enough time to work through the threads to make an analysis. As to my ‘absence’, I am continually posting in my cell’s chat and the reason I don’t post in the main one is because I don’t have anything to contribute. If I did, then I would. If you have anything you would like me to do, I can try to do it for you. The reason I don’t put a reason in my votes is because the only reason I vote them is because everyone else is voting for them or because someone in my cell told me to. Accuse me if you wish, I am just a wasted turn for the village if you lynch me.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 06:30:05


Dr. Stupid 
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ok. I see a problem here: We seem to waste an awful lot of words on old, tired excuses that are meaningless, pointless, and ultimately useless.

To combat this, I have developed a new excuse and stupid phrase numbering system designed specifically for use in these games.

Stupid phrase 1 (s1): I am a villager
Stupid phrase 2 (s2): I don't care what you think about me
Stupid phrase 3 (s3): A vote for me will just help the wolves win

Excuse 1 (e1): I did not or cannot read the rules of this game
Excuse 2 (e2): I do not have time to play this game that I have joined
Excuse 3 (e3): I cannot think critically or do not understand how conclusions are reached
Excuse 4 (e4): Even though I never post any information here, I discuss this game with my mother all the time
Excuse 5 (e5): I let other people do my thinking for me

(later on, as new excuses or stupid phrases arise, we can add them then)

Edited 11/10/2014 06:39:03
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 06:34:39


Dr. Stupid 
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As an illustration, I will go ahead and translate John Smith's brilliant defense into the new system:

s1,e1,e3,e2,e4,e3, If you have any task for me to do to prove my villagyness, let me know. e5,s2,s3
-John Smith

Now tell me...Is that not a major improvement over the old way?

Edited 11/10/2014 06:38:11
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 06:41:57


Dr. Stupid 
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Oh, and by the way, world...You're Welcome!
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 06:54:45


John Smith
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congratulations! you have correctly deciphered my message!
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 06:55:36


John Smith
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what do you want me to say!? That I am a wolf?
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 07:06:18


{rp} eisenheim 
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Ahahahaha Dr. Stupid.

Ah John Smith. I can understand time constraints. However, you have been accused or labelled as suspicious once or twice. That warrants for a response or at least some attempt to show you are innocent.

At this point, you defense only reinforces my suspicions.

the only reason I vote them is because everyone else is voting for them or because someone in my cell told me to.

Wolfish behavior I say.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 07:38:35


Lawlz
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Idk, John seems like a villager to me.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 07:56:35


his balls. 
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Yeah. I am supporting John here too. In large part because I think ehrm and maybe stupid are wolves. Definitely gonna check up ehrm when I get time this evening.

Oh and s1e2. For now.

Edited 11/10/2014 08:02:13
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 07:56:42


Fan the Apostle
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What are the votes dom!?

>.<

Change vote back to: Tashio

Edited 11/10/2014 07:58:04
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 08:19:30


John Smith
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I do not contribute much; they suspect me as a wolf.
I say I am a villager; they say I am a wolf and demand proof that I am a villager.
I give proof; they say I am a wolf for saying what wolves say.
What do you expect me to do? From what it seems like, the best thing for me to do is become totally inactive and get removed from the game by not voting twice in a row!
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 09:15:50


his balls. 
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Nah John. What they are looking for is you to come up with alternatives you suspect to be wolves. Dont bother defending yourself you just dig a deeper hole. Use the power of your posts to make another candidate more lynchable.

I reckon if you just filter through Ehrm's posts you will be able to make a case for him. After all that is why we are playing right? The fun is in the hunt.

Edited 11/10/2014 09:27:36
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 12:00:37


{rp} eisenheim 
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His Balls is right John. Nothing personal, I just want your opinions rather than the bare minimum.
Cheers mate.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 12:05:05


Ace Windu 
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Ehrman, who are your top suspects at the moment?
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 13:29:56


{rp} eisenheim 
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Ace:
John Smith. Due to him admitting he allows others to dictate his flow of voting.

I would however prefer to test Frank's claim before lynching him. If Veigar is killed we know he trod on some toes. If Frank fails to shoot a target we know he was lying. I personally don't agree with supporting Veigar's theory simply because he has a seer on his side.

That being said, I am not convinced Frank's innocent. Its a huge claim Veigar is going with, and a risk. Till this point he hasn't said or done something this drastic. So I guess it really bottles down to perspectives.

I would like to avoid villager casualties as much as possible.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 13:42:29


his balls. 
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Its almost certainly too late to test Franks claim but okay. Frank, who you gonna shoot? Tell us and if that person is dead in the morning great. We have a confirmed villager. More likely though, if your claim is true you will be killed by the wolves. Either way, there is no point saving your bullet. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt, not that it will probably change things.

so,

VOTE JOHN SMITH, until I hear better from him.
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 15:21:38


Landalf
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Well... not sure about the logic from Ehrmantraut
and reading all votes before, I believe FRANK is winning the race.. nobody knows if he a vigilante..

Somehow I don't trust these two guys... what are your thoughts?
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 15:25:01

Mayor Sonnen
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My analysis:
We have 20 players left. Of these 20, there will be at least 5 wolves (+1muse/wolf), 1 angel, 1 vig, 2 seers, 1 muse and his/her villager. taking into account that every seer looked up one identity per night, they know up to 6 villagers (3 nights, different seering). Therefore, if there really is a group of confirmed in a chat (as Arun said), then we have a group of up to 12 confirmed non-wolves. If this is true, does the wolfmuse know who they are? If there are really 12 confirmed non-wolves, they hold the majority vote and can- and I think should- kill everybody else. I expect that Dom has equally distributed the specials among the cells.
Looking at these numbers, I realize that I am probably the only villager (or maybe up to a handful of villagers) with no intel whatsoever. I will have to base my judgement on the public chat alone, it seems.

My suspect list in order of likelihood (and this will probably get me killed)
Landalf (no analysis, just blabla phrases like "start and think people", no opinion of his own)
genghis (not an exact reason but his abstaining from voting and rare comments)
Mooooo (lurking)

then maybe ehrenmantraut, kellen, Taisho and John Smith (just get a vibe)

People, I except to be on the villager side are
Dr. Stupid (analysis far beyond what a wolf would say I think)
Hisballs (disagreeing to be part of Arun's Trio from the first moment. A wolf coud have taken advantage of such a position)

Probably innocent
Rento but I don't know.


Questions, I cannot answer:
1. Kasparov/false seer incident.
2. Is there really a chat with all specials? If so, it's infiltrated by the muse or false seer. What to do about it?
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 15:28:14


Timinator • apex 
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s2e4
❹ Wolves ❹ - CELL: 2014-11-10 15:34:48

Mayor Sonnen
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ooh, I didn't take into account the neutral roles. but that should only be one or two people. I don't think Dom has chosen more than that
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