Annonymous, I am sorry but I did join, unaware fo what you meant, and now it has started.

Also Pdero Luiz has said he has no intention of joining WM, so I think I am not the only player to be mistaken...

Also if you check the Platinum tournament, which has already begun, only 2 players are not in clans, and 1 has said they don't intend on joining, I suggest you make a different WM - Platinum, but make it clear that you only want players who wish to join WM

Okay Red, I declined. But you realise that half of the people who joined have no intentions to be in WM, right? And the other half may change their mind during the tournament, which is going to take months to finish.

As for the purpose of this competition, what is it exactly? Winning guarantees nothing, if you take the winner to your clan, that means he would have been taken anyway, had he only asked.

it's more fun to troll WM's silly recruitment tournament than to play other tournaments. :)

Aranka, I will stop needling the time you stop taking it so serious.
What should i settle ingame? There is really nothing to settle, everything already has been settled. My opinion about who is good and who is great is totally unrelated to clan allegiance.
A WM before your nick, or a Relite/ apex behind it, doesnt make you a better player. Nor does it guarantee a challenge, when playing against them.

But Aranka, wouldnt you agree that Relite is the best clan statswise?

people have more possibilities to join WM this way instead of beating gnuffone D_D

Has everything already been settled ?? I know you've managed somehow to build a reputation in the past but so far seeing the 25 most recent games I've played with and against you the outcome is pretty close to a 50-50% ratio.
The reason why I take it so serious is because there is a hidden layer behind your words implying multiple things.

Maybe Relite is the best stats wise, maybe not. Even if you think Relite only has the "best stats" because we make false games I think the most recent results seem to indicate that we actually manage to back up those stats.

The joke about Elite inflating their own stats is just getting a bit old

As for the purpose of this competition, what is it exactly?

There may be quite good players out there that i've never heard about. The purpose is like the purpose o a football selection match, a rugby or a baseball one. A sort of "talent scouting"

But you realise that half of the people who joined have no intentions to be in WM, right?

Maybe not, but i do realize that 9/10 of who join have no chances to be part of WM. So at this point, intentions worth not much.

Aranka, in how many of these games did i have a random ally?
Why dont you post them all, so we can see in detail how that 50-50 ratio came to be.

You dear Aranka tend to take every game serious you play, but let me tell you this. Once you achieved all you wanted to achieve, you dont take the individual game serious anymore. You are bored. You dont have to win anymore, you dont have to prove yourself anymore.
Now you make the mistake of confusing the lack of winning attitude with lack of skills.

You Aranka have to prove a lot. You want everybody know how good you are. So go out and prove yourself. Gnuffone needed that and Gnuffone did it. I dont see you winning any challenges. I dont see you winning any tournaments of value. If being accepted as an elite player is truely what you want, then start playing elite players in enviroments that mean something. Play the live tournaments. Play the Champions league games. Make up challenges in the forum. Possibilities are there.

Concerning your stats.
Are you really that delusional, that you believe you can back up your stats?
Do you really believe you can maintain a 80% win ratio playing in random team games?
Do you believe you can maintain a 80% win ratio playing solid opponents in 1on1?
You can make yourself believe that you can back up those stats, but you can not fool the ones, whos attention you are craving for.

Myhand - stop it. Top MMA fighter women can lose against her on a ring. Your argument is invalid.

"Do you really believe you can maintain a 80% win ratio playing in random team games?"

To date I do not believe she has played a liquid opponent.

As such I have faith that she can indeed beat solid opponents. They may be her alts, and she may be farming them, but they are still solid.

In what kind of twisted logic does random opponents suddenly translate into solid opponents ?
If I say I would win 80% of my games that implies I win against 80% of my opponents. Nowhere does that inherently cover the fact that all of these need to be top players. A lot of them are, but also a lot of games when played at random won't be against top opponents.
Personally I think I've played my fair share against decent opponents in 2vs2 and 3vs3.

With regards to playing elite players in enviroments that mean something...well it's not my fault that the moment the opponents are losing they don't play anymore in challenges.
I do respect WM and I think they are a good team.
We challenged them, we won.
Apex so far hasn't responded yet to a challenge.
I don't know which other challenges you were implying at, but with you and your Gui games, the Qi,Qu,Qe challenges was also met with silence and never came out of the ground.

Personally people deem too much value based on 1vs1 strat ME games. Personally I don't like those games. They bore me and I don't feel an inclination to win those games. Seemingly you make the same mistake you just recently said I was commiting. How hypocritical.

Nowhere did I say I was a great player. I merely said that even where you might think otherwise I am in fact a decent player. And just like I won't needlessly throw dirt on WM, Apex or any other alliance, nor on clanless members I expect other people to also uphold the same level of decency.
Just because you've got a reputation doesn't merit you or anyone else to suddenly have a free letter for mud throwing.

Very weak players indeed........

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3973333

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3972305

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3971543

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3967742

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3966958

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3947786

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3920709

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3915122

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3925284

But you were right, in 2 of the games you also had relatively weaker teammates then me.
So I take it that means you're correct ??

Aranka, In 4-5 of those games, You had better teammates. In 1-2, it was relatively even. In 2 games, I would say he had better teammates than you. In one of the games, it was autodistribution :/ So that really isn't too impressive to me, How about you show all your losses to him as well?

Aranka, In 4-5 of those games, You had better teammates. In 1-2, it was relatively even. In 2 games, I would say he had better teammates than you.

Let's analyse that more closely......

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3925284
Heyheuhei or Gnuffone, I think both these players are among the best out there

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3915122
We neither have really strong teammates. I have 2 average players and myhand has 1 bad player, but also a relatively strong player (Cat apex)

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3920709
Sentenza is clearly the weakest player here so I think myhand had a harder challenge here

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3947786
Meccup is a solid 50% player, but CPU Demolition is indeed the better player

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3966958
I had the better players here, even though in 60% 1vs1,2vs2,3vs3 you would expect a decent level of play from the players regardless

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3967742
Autodistribution indeed but not many will claim a team consisting of szweningen, flyingbender, gnuffone and myhand is weak

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3971543
I would argue that in this game myhand had the stronger team. With all due respect I think Malamute and X-apex are not in the same league as gnuffone and Psy

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3972305
Here it's a tight call, but I think myhand has the stronger team. Red is a good leader, but his alliance member outshines him in 3vs3 europe mode. Mr.X and X-apex are in the same league.

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3973333
I dislike the mentality and attitude of Movo here, but skill wise I think he's just slightly better then Mr.X


With regard to my losses I did indeed lose a lot against myhand in my first 2 months of playing warlight. I think up till that point he had beaten me 3-4x and I only won 2x when he was in my time. I didn't get any win against him.
For the other losses it's probably around 10 with the same variation in opponents as in the games I won against him.
For the info I also have to say I excluded 3 wins of myself because I acknowledged my teammates were clearly superior.
So overall I am like 12-13 against myhand in games where we faced each other in which most of the contribution leading to a negative saldo is because of my first few months playing warlight in which I had a 0-4 record against him.


I am giving this info NOT because I want to say I am equal to myhand or anything.
I know he's a great player and in terms of skill he is better then me. Period, no discussion there.
All I'm trying to say is that I don't think myhand's intended flaming and mud throwing on Relite itself and on my character is merited.

I really respect myhand for the player he is and I still do.
OOnly thing I lost my respect for is his behaviour and attitude here. I'm disappointed in him as a person.

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3925284
Heyheuhei or Gnuffone, I think both these players are among the best out there

aranka check chat teamchat of this game pls, maybe you don't remember that you play as a gnuff puppet.

For fuck's sake, another Aranka thread? Can't you people stop?

Instead of talking about ideas and strategies, you talk about who had the worst teammates. This is everything that is wrong with team games in WL.

aranka check chat teamchat of this game pls, maybe you don't remember that you play as a gnuff puppet.

No, I did not remember that anymore. But yes, I did follow your orders there, albeit some of them weren't statistically possible as I pointed out to you.
Why I let myself be puppet-mastered ?? I think a combination of playing multiple games simultanously at that time and some remaining inherent lack of confidence I suppose.

But if you want to go on and make witty remarks about things which happened in team chat or ingame I also have a nice example.
In this game:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4078783
It was part of the april fool's day prank.

Previously we had played the following game without a clear set winner to see which of us could win when just playing normally:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4078687

In the 1vs1 strategic ME map I had won 1 before and was winning the 2nd so to make it look realistic I HAD to lose one game. That would have to be this game.
I told you my starting position and even though you knew all my starts and I really don't like 1vs1 strat ME you still needed me to literally comment my moves in order for you to gain victory: