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What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 12:59:50


Roi Joleil
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@waffle 1.0
I know, i read it.
I was replying to Vera why it wouldnt make any sense for you to fake it like that, as (hypothetical) you did fake it the way you did, its so fucking obvious.
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:02:44


waffle 1.0 
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Ah, okay. Apologize for the confusion, but I think my post cleared it up to anyone else who is confused. :)
- downvoted post by VERAVARI
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:16:21


Roi Joleil
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"If you think waffle is innocent, can you explain this too?"

There is no "If you think he is innocent"
He is either Innocent or you have prove of action -> Guilty.

So as Judge Roi Joleil, considering your evidence only consists of Anecdotal evidence, I hereby declare the defendant as... NOT GUILTY
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:17:55


Roi Joleil
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waffle 1.0

'''''I send you my paypal, by today evening i expect the transaction to be completed.
The amount we specified ofcourse.'''''
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:30:37


alexclusive 
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It is also untrue, your posts got hidden due to downvotes in many other threads completely unrelated to waffle
- downvoted post by VERAVARI
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:33:00


alexclusive 
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For example the return to 3 days boot thread where you experienced the necessity to point out that JK voted +1 twice
- downvoted post by VERAVARI
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:38:53


alexclusive 
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My advice remains the same: Be nice to people and they will be nice to you too. I honestly appreciate you sharing your thoughts on many topics on the forums. However, it would greatly benefit the objectivity of the discussions if you refrained from accusing people, defending yourself and getting personal. People will feel provoked and nobody is going to benefit. Like in this thread, where the topic has completely been lost to an extent that I unfollowed my own thread.
- downvoted post by VERAVARI
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 13:55:03


alexclusive 
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I lashed out and got downvoted too in the past, I learned from it and improved my discussion style
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 14:07:10


waffle 1.0 
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If my accusation is false, nothing will be done to waffle anyway.


Except it puts you in a bad light to put forward accusation which has no proof whatsoever. People, myself included, take it as a sign of you being vindictive, paranoid or something along these lines. In order to be productive, you should look at the matter from the other person's point of view and assume that they are onto something, and first try to see that POV. Otherwise, you're not showing that you're taking them seriously. Sure, it does nothing to me (except making me laugh), but it does something to your own credibility as someone who is willing to take others seriously and discuss while considering multiple points of view.

You accusing me of downvoting you with alts is a possible explanation, sure, but it is wildly implausible, has no evidence whatsoever, and was totally ridiculous to begin with. You have accomplished nothing good by putting it forward.
- downvoted post by VERAVARI
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 17:09:02


master of desaster 
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Downvoted
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 17:09:54


TR-8R 
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^+1
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 17:16:27


Tac(ky)tical 
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its okay to be wrong, we are not hating on you for it :)
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 17:30:14


waffle 1.0 
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If you think my comments are hateful, then you should see some of yours as things of at least the same magnitude. I don't see either as "hateful", but following your logic, you would probably find yourself to be more hateful.

For the last time, nobody hates you, and you are taking disagreements with you as being personal attacks. As Tacky points out above, there's a difference between thinking someone is wrong, and hate. I (and others) do the former, and you, for some reason, interpret it as the latter. The problem is on your end. If you acknowledge it and work towards fixing it, it will benefit everybody, including yourself, as well as the overall discussion productivity.
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 17:35:05

VERAVARI
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its okay to be wrong

▶ Well... you can't know whether I was right or wrong, certain comments conveniently got deleted. No meaningful discussion can occur as long as the conversation gets manipulated.

we are not hating on you for it :)

▶ You are not, and thank you, but its clearly not the case for some people in this forum
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-13 17:35:45


Torsten 
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vera, for transparency I am someone who was downvoting your posts :) don't think it is a waffle conspiracy
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