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Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-26 11:49:55


Melody 
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Octane vs Kenny bo11 wouldn’t be close!

Also, comparing Kenny win rates on Europe to this season template does not make a whole lot of sense
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-26 14:40:38


Kenny • apex 
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Lol, I practiced for several months with Szew Gui Myhand and others on Europe 3v3 so I could help a clan that had almost no 3v3 experience go 30-6 over 3 seasons on Europe 3v3. So idk where this carrying shit comes from. I've only gone 3-3 or worse in 1 tournament over my time playing CL, and that was Frank and I being very stressed out and tired that tournament. Otherwise I've been 4-2 or greater even on new templates we had to learn just prior to league starting. So given that I've had a floor of 4-2 90% of the time I've played, I don't think it's delusional to say that my floor is 4-2. Teams with Rak/Beren also have a high floor as well which you can track historically, so it is not delusional to rate their teams with a floor of 4-2 either. 3-3 can happen, but that would be playing below skill not at. Regardless, it doesn't matter. I'll just put in the work again and shut the doubters up again.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-26 16:00:00


Roi Joleil
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I dont get this arguing.
just wait until the end of CL which then shows who was right
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-26 19:40:08


rakleader 
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There's no shame in having a 3-3 or a 4-2 ceiling, Kenny.
Not everyone can have a positive record on CL.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-26 21:11:14


Buns157 
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I wonder who in masters will carry Kenny in 3v3 this season
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-26 23:24:43


Orcinus orca
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@joi it's fun to argue beforehand that's what the prediction thread is for.

Also Kenny's stance that he personally has a 4-2 floor in CL A and basing that on ancient clan leagues where the level of play was lower and one tournament from last CL is pretty funny. I move that the CL powers that be let Kenny play with two alts so we can test this theory.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-27 00:24:39

Platinum 
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The humour to many people here is if someone who is regarded as a top player like Rufus made the exact same statement that included sentences like

I've only gone 3-3 or worse in 1 tournament over my time playing CL, and that was Frank and I being very stressed out and tired that tournament. Otherwise I've been 4-2 or greater even on new templates we had to learn just prior to league starting. So given that I've had a floor of 4-2 90% of the time I've played, I don't think it's delusional to say that my floor is 4-2.


People will call him a arrogant bastard, but wouldn't exactly challenge the truth regarding the statement perhaps. Hence when Kenny is using personal pronouns describing his personal record in CL when he's quite obviously never been a leader on his team games will always humour a few experienced folks.

You put Kenny on a CL team with two puppets, common opinion would be more surprised if it went above 3-3 rather then 2-4 1-5 0-6. That's why people challenge it. Because bottom line they think Kenny is a great team member but not at all a team leader that could do it with puppets because it's a totally different experience.

Now for the sake of entertainment, if you go next CL and join a clan to lead a 3v3 and prove yourself right or wrong. I would love it. But knowing you, you wouldn't put yourself under that pressure probably saying you don't have time or you would get stressed out. So you'll instead defend yourself on the forums to impress the new warzone kids who don't know anything to think your a big alpha brainer.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 07:49:30


Crz_TY
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Moto, we should participate in CL 17 3v3 Final Earth. I am really interested in that one. Damn it, I realized I use the wrong account.


ANYWAYS: http://www.warlight-mtl.com/ New link to mtl page. Let's heat things up there too.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 17:41:09


Kenny • apex 
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Lol, you guys are again delusional. I lead every Apex team for 3v3s and burned myself out doing it. Last 3v3 we were all 3 in call on every pick phase and called for most moves, idk what constitutes as leading for that but we all discussed. Idk why I would bother going back to old tactics when discord calls are hella convenient nowadays. The whole alt business is stupid, no one has succeeded in div A with alts and no one ever will because teammates are invaluable to teamplay at this level. We've seen people try to completely puppet in div A and it has never worked. I have no care to go join some other clan and coach them into success, I have nothing to prove to you idiots because I've already done more than most of you will ever be able to do in this event. I'll just keep winning, you'll keep crying and asking me to do more to prove something I don't need to prove.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 18:25:41


Octane 
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Apex was like 10 years ago, no one cares about your accomplishments then. Players today are much better than players in 2013, Blitz today would have won 5 clan leagues in a row in that era of plumbers and fossils. Enjoy being Forsaken and Arsene's little puppet. Also, why call us idiots? That was very rude of you, you should apologize immediately.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 18:26:17


Orcinus orca
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No one has succeeded in CL A with alts because it's against the rules. It's hard to know exactly what goes behind the scenes on teams I haven't played on, but when I see a team with one very strong player and two not very strong players win a tournament in A I assume it's because the very strong player carried the team.

BTW players like Beep have posted nosebleed ratings on the old team ladders with alts (much higher than your best ratings) and said if the rules allowed they would use all three of their slots on a 3v3 playing with 2 alts.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 18:30:12


Jefferspin 
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"Blitz today would have won 5 clan leagues in a row"

-Octane


I agree. Sadly I will only be around for win #1. It will be quite the dynasty though.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 18:34:05


Kenny • apex 
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When I went back to verify how successful alt teams were on the ladder there were only 3 true alt teams that had positive win records of any sort and the rest of them all failed. It's not against the rules in clan league to just recruit 2 people who will input orders based on how you want them to, teams that have tried to have 1 person puppet the other 2 have not had positive win records and typically don't finish the season in that fashion. People keep acting like puppeting is superior to team play, but no one does it when the stakes actually matter or against the best of the best as shown in Clan League division A. So keep chatting about how good it is I guess.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 18:43:02

Platinum 
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People keep acting like puppeting is superior to team play, but no one does it when the stakes actually matter or against the best of the best as shown in Clan League division A.


It's strange you are so strong minded on a opinion that is so obviously not correct. There's probably a handful of examples of teams that have won that are exactly as you've described.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 18:51:05


rakleader 
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Oh on the contrary. I'm getting carried by Arsene and Forsaken. Arsene is quite underrated, I think he may be one of the best team game players in the game right now. Forsaken is really good as well.


I mean, Kenny, you've admitted before that you were carried so I don't know why you are denying it now.
When you have three players on the team, one has to be less skilled than the two others, that's just how it is.
And there's no shame in being that less-skilled player.

Also if you're at a level where you're getting carried by Forsaken, then based on my personal experience, I'm going to assume that you were also carried by all your previous teammates. (No offense, Forsaken.) Which seems to be the general belief in the warzone community anyway.
And once again, there's no shame in that. Finding good clanmates and benefiting from them is a skill too.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 19:03:17


Octane 
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We're still waiting to hear that apology for calling us idiots. Why can't you just take accountability for your mistakes?
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 19:18:14


Old Nick 
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well for starters, Dry Clean is most likely going to carry me. Obviously everyone knows that. Am I an idiot for being on the team? I mean it got me into CL, I am lucky to have a 1v1 slot at this point.

having someone puppet is more about the puppeteer asking the right questions. Why do I move this way? Bigger problems spiral when you get angry and accuse others of being delusional because you think you are right.

It's one thing saying you are a strong teammate, its another calling people idiots who potentially are not as good as you are. Please do not bring hate comments into an argument because then everyone starts looking at you as a fool to defend themselves from feeling like crap because of your comments
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 20:06:48


Kenny • apex 
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Am gonna tell it like it is. If they’re gonna be delusional then I’m gonna call them delusional. If they’re gonna say idiotic things then I’m gonna call it out as idiotic. I’m glad I’ve made things entertaining for you merely by stating facts and watching y’all’s brains melt down.
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 20:11:29


Melody 
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Well beep is a special case, normally two (or three) heads are better than one. I can say for sure there have been more than 3 successful alt teams, but maybe only a handful got 1st or high rating. Depends on your definition of success I guess!

I am eagerly waiting an apology letter and/ video with song
Clan League 17 Prediction Thread: 2023-12-28 20:21:52


Bonsai 
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When did Nauz take over Kenny's account?
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