Administration in clans of this sort is for purely organizational purposes. There is no real power to be had, and you play diplomacy/whatever together.

The government that governs least, governs best.

I'm not really sure what your talking about, considering I made him take back his accusation this thread is pointless.

Anywho, have fun

If you saw our clan system, you would marvel at it's genius and excellence.

They couldn't understand it, and neither can I...

I can I just don't understand why you have more positions than players

Thank you genghis clans shouldn't be about the numbers of players but the quality of players, if you want to be a good clan you must have good leaders that can teach and also listen. Not spamming the forums and worrying about others clan, focus on your team and be a leader. Create a clan that is fun, exciting but also a challenge.

strategic clans can play so called diplo games better than diplo clans without even practicing

diplo clan players on the other hand cannot play diplo very well without practicing 1 vs 1 first
also in diplos its hard to track who's doing what each turn and to look back in history and check for our faults to improve

so i don't like the word diplo here.its an excuse for someone who can't say they're not good enough :P

btw,T4R plays role play,team games,1 vs 1,they have seasonal inter clan tournaments of 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 games
so don't you dare call them diplo clan!

we get called a diplo clan and we play more team games and 1v1's than diplos...

As a matter of fact, mr Ryiro, I take pride in the fact that I do not use lotteries to level up, I only use 1v1 games. I also regularly host various team games such as my notorious 2015 Ukraine Epic Team Game.
I do, however, enjoy the challenge of diplomacy as well as the skills and politics that brings with it.

diplo clan players on the other hand cannot play diplo very well without practicing 1 vs 1 first

Bullshit. Diplo requires knowing your opponent and who he will next attack, wich ally to betray and so on much more than actual fighting skills.

Greetings.

I do not believe diplomacy and roleplay are mutually exclusive. However, one has a negative connotation derived from the audience it attracts, diplomacy. Regardless if one is considered of lesser quality or not, they both attempt to provide a similar experience which can be easily modified by the hosts to suit their purpose.

Coming back to the audience diplomacy games draw in. I have found many of these players do not communicate, regularity ignore rules, and are overall immature/disrespectful. As a result, I can only conclude that those that enjoy the finer points of diplomacy/roleplay disregard diplomacy games as a legitimate game type when in reality roleplaying exists in all true diplomacy games. This is to distance themselves with a game type that has lost so much face that associating oneself with it will end in elitist players looking down upon the player in question. Thus, we have a distinct divide. If anything, the majority of diplomacy games hosted on Warlight are pseudo-diplomacy and are more similar to blob simulator 2015.

Anyway, diplomacy requires a certain amount of skill in regards to Warlight, but being a skilled player is not indicative of success in diplomacy or roleplay game types. One must be able to communicate effectively, be willing to play ruthlessly in regards to their 'allies', be able to stay on top of the diplomatic landscape of a particular match, etc..

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Genghis it really depends on the community and the effectiveness of the leaders doesn't it?

T4R has 99 players I believe, and while we have a very centralized administration we still managed to stay on top of everything and everyone. Of course having a dedicated leader and subordinates helps; however, having standards is far more important. We strive for our members to have a certain level of etiquette so they present the clan, which happens to have a serious negative connotation before any interaction begins, in a positive fashion.

Order and dedication from leaders can manage a large community, and of course having enough humility to divide the labor when required.

Please do send Livermor or myself mail if you see one of our members acting up. Thanks.

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I find that playing WL Diplos tend to be like Civ IV.

You have to appease everybody, but you constantly get gang rushed by other Civs and usually only have 1-2 good allies who might be weak. Constant communication, and swallowing your pride are probably the 2 most important factors to winning Diplomacy.

Being a little above or at par with the average player, and having much 1v1-2v2 experience, you'd think strategy alone makes me somewhat dominant in the political diplomacy field.

^tl;dr I agree with Thomas and Rommel.

If you want to have any fun out of Diplomacy/RP Games, you have to organize them with friends and include rules that add flavorful twists.

YES

Put at least 1/3 friends:

1. You are more likely to win anyway (easier to get allies)
2. A LOT less booting.
3. Put a 10+ filter on the games for safety...

And just like that, I remember why I loved T4R

T4R is the father of diplomacy. None of us should be allowed to have a word after the Furer has spoken!
Heil Hitler! Sieg heil! Ect.

you joined four months ago...

Watevz. I recognise the important role T4R had in establishing diplomacy as a popular game on WarLight.

If you dislike the people you are playing with, If they are noobs, if they disrespect the rules, gangbang etc etc
Then you are playing with the wrong people.

why did you accept the 8v8 then?

I am not playing with The Pooncrew I am playing against them