:D

I find myself insta-palming at what this thread is called.

Is the fourth Reich corrupt?

(response to Semice)

Irony aside,

(Correct me If I'm wrong) How centralized power is doesn't affect how the government's leaders are decided or what government is in place.

Anyway, I think you miss the point of my entire lecture:

Diplomacy/RP Clans (or clans in general really) on WarLight do not need politics/complex government nor should they have it. The fact that someone "took over" demonstrates how flawed your system is. Political parties? Lol. Wolf elections? More Lol.

The person in control is the person that bought the clan. Period. Anything more, and you risk $15 of earned money. If you are so unable to strictly enjoy the main game that you need politics inside your clan, clearly WL isn't your game.

Listening to your community is good. When your community isn't pointlessly divided and sectionalized.

Spying on other clans? Do you get off on that or something?

Bottom Line: You shouldn't have a government in a game like this. It is unnecessary. You do need administration, otherwise the average member feels isolated. But, you shouldn't needlessly complicate things when you just want to (as a community) play RP games. Just organize RP games and have fun. Don't spam the forums with stupid stuff about how your government system backfired on you.

Edited 2/26/2015 23:38:47

Semicedevine,

T4R was never a hyperactive clan. Our time of notoriety was when Michael was spearheading his own public relations campaign on these forums. Great guy, but was too eager to pick a fight.

Anyway, T4R, like I had just said, has never had a truly active large portion of its community. Most of our core members communicate outside of Warlight, and unfavorable events have kept this from changing.

Our founders and community manager have taken a leave of absence leaving behind a very capable leader and myself. My hands are tied 80% of the time with my courses and or work. While I have made numerous attempts at reviving the community I love I have had very limited success.

However, the way you speak so highly of 'spying' on other clans is disconcerting. Do you enjoy trying to create needless drama? I suppose that is one way to promote activity, to give your members the gossip of the week. Also, out of curiosity I have checked many of the well-known clan's forums, and yours, while active, promotes and discusses nothing of worth. Although, that is just me projecting. It isn't the type of activity I would enjoy seeing in T4R. It has no real substance behind it.

Genghis, I personally believe clan government is a good concept. Spamming the public forums about it, not so much. But being inclusive of all members in making decisions (which a clan can do regardless of 'government' type) is in itself good fun which in turn promotes activity and enjoyment. Yet, when you grant random members administrative rights you are asking for trouble.

Now why sure I even took the time to reply. Guess I am trying to give T4R a tiny bit of relevance again.

Now why sure I even took the time to reply. Guess I am trying to give T4R a tiny bit of relevance again.

Rommel, you've already proven T4R is still good.

But having a government in a RP clan would enhance the RPing.


How do you know our forums @_@

Why would you rp...

Outside of an rp game. ..

*grabs genghis* cause it's fun!*throws him on table and straps him* time for dinner! *sprinkles salt on him and grabs fork* yum.

I don't think getting angry at each other, or dividing when you don't need to because you all agree.

THE WOLF INFLUENCE

Uninfluential clan is Uninfluential.

If you're not going to give out manager rights, then the entire electoral system is a farce.

If you play rp games,then keep the rp to the games. This entire drama system you have in place really gives wolves bad press.


The only thing i like about your clan is fleets. It's the only thing that goes with viking theme.

ok, i'm expecting a dogpile for this question: what is the difference between RP in a warlight game and RP in a clan forum? i can't really see any. neither were specifically created for RP and both can be RP'ed in.

i don't care for RP at all, i just don't care to use my creative energy in that way (but i'm not knocking it, to each his own). all the political stuff in my clan is meaningless, but my undies aren't so tight that i'm gonna criticize people for it. only when people start to take it too seriously do i chime in with "it doesn't really matter, calm down".

leadership without manager rights can still do a lot for a clan. for instance, i don't have manager rights, i don't really want them, but i can still show leadership by making games and tournaments, calling people out for doing things that hurt the clan (like i'm tempted to do to semice right now) and educating them on good etiquette, and expressing my opinions on how the clan should be run in regards to recruitment, community involvement, standards for clan mates, etc. and the more leadership i show the more seriously my opinions are taken. and it is an example for others on how to have their own opinions influence their clan.

as for the spy stuff, i don't agree with it at all. and as far as i know there isnt any information from spies being passed around as gossip.

i know some people are gonna have a shrill hysterical unbending hatred of the lost wolves, and to me it's super pathetic. yes, please, get on someone's case for spamming the forums (i will too, don't worry). if you think semice is annoying, fair enough. if one of us posts something and you want to express your dislike of it, be my guest. but to resort to ad hominem attacks and gross generalizations is just pathetic and immature and brings you down to our supposed level.

but, then again, this is still the same old internet, so whatever...

Edited 2/27/2015 16:56:44

RP makes sense in rp game because it was made for it. Forums should be about organizing events (your clan's forum) or discussions about the games (for all clans in general).

@shyb +1 For being one of the first mature wolves I've seen.

The person in control is the person that bought the clan. Period. Anything more, and you risk $15 of earned money.

At the risk of sounding really immature I LOVE THAT IDEA.

The elections are a way so that everyone feels connected, because with over forty players you can't be connected in a game...

*realises we only have 25*

D'OH

but to resort to ad hominem attacks and gross generalizations is just pathetic and immature and brings you down to our supposed level.

- Shyb

@shyb +1 For being one of the first mature wolves I've seen.

- Genghis


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sorry Rommel so idiots in our leadership cough semice cough ... seems to step out of line and disrespect many other clans leaders just becuz he thinks we are better. we aren't better. I believe there are way better clans out there then Wolves. but we have a decent clan. just a lot of bad eggs. I have always respected T4R and I still do. T4R got me started on all these clan activitys. and I thank everyone bad in T4R when I was there. I was a hot head then and im still a hot head now but I believe my glory days was rising through the ranks while in T4R. I miss though days.

I miss being in the Wolves...

don't we all

You were a timelord, not a Wolf.