Clement Attlet: entirely right.

Wow, someone who agrees with me on the WarLight forums, that never happens :)

they both have a frigging right to exist. I think that the West Bank should be allowed to become a country. I think Israel should stay a country.

Well the only solution to this is obviously anarchy

the only country that has a right to exist is america. suck it.

^What about Lichtenstein?

Why the hell did British decide it didn't want Palestine as a colony any more after losing hundreds of thousands of troops trying to capture it from the Germans???

Let me tell you something, the Jews are used to deceit, They fake the facts and chnged the laws of Allah. The Jews switched the law of Allah and by this rebelled on His ruling and religion and way, and therefore they merit to be heretics and to be banished from the Allah's mercy. They faked the words of Allah and changed their religion and laws and they are the wicked. And whomever does not rule according to what Allah brought down, whomever rebelled against this... is in a rebellion against Allah, and is a descendant of the Satans, and worthy of receiving the punishment of the sinners.
Read history and you will understand that the Jews of yesterday are the evil fathers of the Jews of today, who are evil offspring, infidels, distorters of words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers, the scum of the human race whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs.

I've never heard so much rubbish in all my time here on WarLight.
Okay, the first couple of lines are alright, but then you go on to say that whoever does not rule by what Allaah revealed is in rebellion against Allaah... what about the President of Egypt President Abdelfatah El-Sisi??? He is Muslim. Are you going to make takfeer of him and bring upon yourself the wrath of Allaah? Who are you to misquote the book of Allaah??? Do you consider yourself to be now a scholar that you can make takfeer of Muslim rulers?

Imaam Ibn Baz was asked the question:

"In relation to the Islamic lands, in most of them, there are practices of shirk, and there are constructions (tombs) where there are graves of the righteous, so the point in this topic is whether these lands are labelled Islamic or labelled non-Islamic?"
To which he replied:

"This is based upon observation (of these lands), when the symbols of kufr predominate, it is a land of kufr, and when the symbols of Islam predominate then it is a land of Islam, in accordance with what is apparent (outwardly) and the predominant (situation) therein. In accordance with what predominates, whatever predominates ... when Islam and prayer and other such symbols of Islam predominate, then it is a land of Islam, even if the ruler is a disbeliever."


Also, with regards to your rant about the Jews, then be not like the Qutbis and the Ikhwanis!
Do not embed your religion with politics, and do not become emotional due to it, as it will harm you.
The original Jews were the descendants of Isaac the son of Abraham. The present Jews are nothing but former-slave Turks converted to Judaism by their Russian-Jewish masters. It is true that they murdered Prophets, as they murdered Jesus and Muhammad, however there are Jews on this website who will distance themselves from that. Allaah did not turn the Jews that are alive today into apes and pigs, this is a complete fantasy invented by ikhwaanis and the likes due to a lack of knowledge. In fact, those that Allaah turned into apes and pigs did not have the ability to reproduce, and became extinct. They were sterile.
So, please think before you stay stuff, and change your name as at the moment it seems that you support a terrorist organisation.

Jews own Isreal historicaly and claiming Jews came from Islam is wrong cause Islam didn't show up till 610 AD.

Islam was always there. It didn't "show up" at all. Adam and Eve were Muslim.

Jews have no right to Palestinian land. Palestine has always been inhabited by Arabs historically...
...even the Jews that lived in Palestine prior to the conquest of Jerusalem by Arabs from Byzantium mostly converted to Islam.

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Adam and Eve were Muslim.

Top kek

Lawlz is transgender.

Top kek

How is that funny? You just stated a fact is all, what you said about adam and eve just sounds like propoganda spewed out by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Colonel, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Islam was the first of the Abrahamic religions. Hate to break it to you, but Judaism was first (WAAAAAY First) then came Christianity, Islam was last to form.

> you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Islam was the first of the Abrahamic religions. Hate to break it to you, but Judaism was first (WAAAAAY First) then came Christianity, Islam was last to form.


Islam always existed, it was always there. Abraham and the other Prophets were Muslims. Eid was celebrated after Ismail's and Abraham's time and they used to pray but the ways weren't established until Muhammad recieved the Quraan. However, all the prophets prayed and one of the reasons that Prayer was made compulsory was because of 5 different prophets. Like Adam prayed, joseph and other prophets. It also says in the Quraan that Abraham was Muslim and so were the others and their followers as they followed the way of Abraham. It was due to man changing the original scriptures, that other religions developed, and the Quraan is the book that hasn't and will never change. Muhammad was the last prophet sent to clear things up. And do not forget that Muhammad is descnded from the line of Abraham.

"Islam was always there. It didn't "show up" at all. Adam and Eve were Muslim.

Jews have no right to Palestinian land. Palestine has always been inhabited by Arabs historically...
...even the Jews that lived in Palestine prior to the conquest of Jerusalem by Arabs from Byzantium mostly converted to Islam. "
Lol your screwed?
Jewish religion was founded by Abraham, who was called a Jew (probably Roman-era name Jew - Judah)
So the Jewish religion of Abraham "original", is the religion of the Jews the only people who still go to that, Judaism was established in 2000 to 1800 ~ BC, Islam is just 600 AD.
Besides, you want to Israel because it is holy to Islam? I thought it was a state of the Jewish religion,
Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran, you do not pray towards Jerusalem, Israel, Islam does not have anything sacred.
What can you say? Muhammad built a house in Jerusalem? You want to visit Nazareth, the hometown of Jesus? So what are you talking shit?
Israel legally established, and buying land, quite legitimately, Arab refugees fled the country in setting up or because they were afraid that the rumors that Jews had killed them (which did not happen) and because of that Arab countries said that they were getting into so they enter.
This is the only reason that Palestinian refugees, who left have full citizenship, and a half million Arabs live in Israel, "Jewish" full citizenship.
The Palestinian Authority and Gaza came after a war with Egypt and Jordan, suddenly invented Palestinian people, who are only Arabs are not a nation.
Palestinian Authority autonomy and live under their own prime minister, but we are afraid to give them independence because of lack of credibility of the government of Abu Mazen, Abbas joined Hamas, received a doctorate in which he says that the Jews made their marks Holocaust and wants to free Muslim terrorists in prison
Gaza no Israeli Nhkot day, but because of the great threat of the terrorist organization Hamas, we reserve the border and bring them food and water power fuel.
With you want a free Gaza Palestinian Authority So we want to stop the terror.
Then we'll talk about peace

Yeah, Elroi, crush that ugly disgrace.

The Palestinian Authority and Gaza came after a war with Egypt and Jordan, suddenly invented Palestinian people, who are only Arabs are not a nation.

Palestine was not simply "invented". Palestine have a very long history of living in that region, and so do Israelis. I hate hearing these "Palestine never existed" lies. Palestine did exist, but before Islam. That is why there is not an Islamic holy city, like Mecca in Palestine, because Palestine was invaded by Israel before Islam was invented.

Correction, you talk about the Philistines, invading Crete made a journey conquests along the Mediterranean coast, they occupied the Gaza region, lived there, Hflstinim of today are only Arabs not Philistines original, I'm just saying that there is no such thing as a nation Palestinian Arab, only Arab nationality, that There has never been a Palestinian Arab state that they are considered only Arabs, are not a separate nation

First of all, Philistines are Palestine. Translated through Illyrian, the inhabitants of the Philistines were called Palaestīnī people.

Second of all, the country that occupied the Gaza region WERE Philistines, but the country that made conquests to Crete, and the Mediterranean was Phoenicia, not Philistines.

EDIT: Actually I found out that the Philistines did actually occupy Cyprus, Crete, and much of the Aegean sea. Nevermind what I said...

Edited 4/14/2015 20:45:53

Philistines appears in the Hebrew language, so they called residents of the Gaza Strip, according to the history of the invasion of Gaza by the nations of the sea, they invaded and occupied the Gaza Strip and settled there, they also destroyed the Hittite empire, invaded Cyprus and fought against Egypt, 1400-1500 ~ BC