I am heterosexual.

Before coming to the WarLight forums, I had no interaction with someone who was not heterosexual.
Since coming to the WarLight forums, I have been enlightened. No longer do I consider homosexuals as equals.

WHY???

You've never considered gays equals - such is Islam and true Christianity.

Muhammad tolerated polygamy and pedophilia but not homosexuality, yeah, allahu akbar.

(i guess this is again a trolling thread so I wont post ever again here)

I thought he was banned and learned his lesson than to be a hate mongering moron.

Oh wise Xpapy, educate me. What is true Christianity?

Pretty much the only ones who are True Christians these days are monks and priests (certainly not Protestants).

I see. We disclude the priests who molest and the like, right?

I see it like this: we're all exactly the same as each other until we do something wrong which makes us unequal to other people. Gay people have not necessarily done something wrong by just being gay. However, if you don't help them before their mental state becomes too deranged, they will eventually believe that there is nothing you can do to fix them. Truth be told, some cannot be guided to avoid perverted sexual attractions.
If a child should be brought up without a gender identity, which is either male or female, will end up like a child who is brought up without a language or cultural identity. Imagine the mental consequences the traumatic realisation of a child that they were born into the wrong culture!

Those who say that you need to have "belief" in something to avoid or suppress perverted sexual thoughts are stupid. Belief in God alone does not prevent those thoughts from entering your mind subconsciously. Every single human, at one time or another, in one situation or another, probably has experienced some kind of perverted sexual thought, whether towards a close relative, towards a same-gender person, towards a child or even towards an animal. Nobody can deny that.

So what is the difference between a person that fulfils their desires and a person that doesn't?
Aren't those who act on their impulses just living life to the fullest?
And what harm does it have on me or you if someone was to engage in a form of perverted sexuality?

The answers to these questions lie in simple common-sense and logic.

If one was to merely think about carrying out a bank-robbery, they would have not yet done any harm.
If someone was to plan, and arrange for a bank-robbery to happen, but then abandoned their project, they would still have done no harm.
However, if someone was to go, and walk into a bank and take money at gun-point, the people he stole from would be hurt. In fact, the bank's clients would also be hurt, considering the money stolen is ultimately theirs.

If one was to cancel a planned bank-robbery, you would be less well-off.

If a bank then became broke because of an unimaginably vast sum of money being stolen, the clients who lost money would then be harmed immensely by the robber's actions.

The clue that sexually perverted persons of all types, whether lesbian, homosexual, paedophile or another form, are mentally unwell, is that they refer to their mental state as "gender identity".
The word 'gender' refers to the type of sexual organs you posses. If you posses testicles and a penis, you are considered "male", and if you posses a vagina, you are a female. This is irrespective of what you use said organs for.
Having a separate category for those that use their sexual organs in perverted ways is illogical to say the least.
The reasoning behind this is that before a person actually reveals to another person that they prefer to release themselves sexually in a perverted manner, nobody knows about it. Why do we have to know whether you like to stick your penis up an anus or a vagina?

The complete stupidity which has led people blindly into this dangerous way of viewing sexual impulses in a, in my opinion, more inward manner, is not healthy for society.

If you believe, that in a free, fair and open society, people should be given the choice to express themselves sexually in any manner they feel they should, why should it have to be forced down everyone else's throats?

I think that the knowledge of the existence of a penis is more important to a person who requests information by way of a form, than what you do with it in the bedroom.
Where are we going to go next? Masturbasexual people?

The way I see it is, Jesus (New Testament) said that we are nobody to judge, for we are not God, therefore, we should not persecute anyone for the way they live their life (if nobody else is affected) and let God be the judge, if God exists.

Islam for life. Salifism Islam.

The way I see it is, Jesus (New Testament) said that we are nobody to judge, for we are not God, therefore, we should not persecute anyone for the way they live their life (if nobody else is affected) and let God be the judge, if God exists.

That is a pretty narrow-minded observation.

Imagine that God didn't tell us how to live our lives, he just told us that we should do whatever we wanted and hope for the best. God did tell us how to live our lives. And God sets us trials all the time to test our faith in Him. It is quite possible that Satan will seduce you into committing acts which are treasonous in God's eyes by using the fact that they "do not hurt anybody" as a cover. Since when was the fact that something doesn't hurt somebody an excuse for sin?

Islam for life. Salifism Islam.

I am not a Salafist. As far as I know there is no such thing... I have never met one.

I am, though, a Salafi. This is a word of ascription meaning one who follows the Salaf.

You will find most, even so-called "liberal Muslims", of the world's population of Muslims describing themselves using this word.

The Salaf can be translated to mean "pious predecessors". They are the scholars who have passed away, with a trail of them from our time, leading to the companions of the Prophet Muhammad.

You are right, God did give us a list of things we ought to do. He also gave us free choice to do what we want to do, and in the end, only He will judge us on those acts.

But still, I am a Christian, meaning believer and follower of Christ, Jesus. And Jesus does not want you or I to condemn, for it is not our place. It is not a narrow-minded way of thinking.

You are right, God did give us a list of things we ought to do. He also gave us free choice to do what we want to do, and in the end, only He will judge us on those acts.

But still, I am a Christian, meaning believer and follower of Christ, Jesus. And Jesus does not want you or I to condemn, for it is not our place. It is not a narrow-minded way of thinking.

So tell me, how do you know if something is right or wrong?

Is not having having sexual relations with a child wrong? But God told you not to condemn?

Jesus also said to follow the law of your king. If having a relationship with a child is illegal, then that person will be punished by the king's (person in charge) government. If it is illegal to have homosexual relationships, then one should not partake in them; but if they are legal, then one is lawfully allowed to partake in them. But God is the first, most important, and final judge. The only thing one should always do, no matter what law exists, is to believe in God, and not deny his existence.

right and wrong, and good and bad, are ultimately decided by God (assuming God is real), but human morals all derive from our feelings of guilt, which vary between all of us, which is why laws need to be established in the first place.

I'm going to bed, so don't expect another response from me for a while. Good night, friend.

Edited 5/19/2015 03:28:31

its kinda right to not have sex with kids.

Before coming to the WarLight forums, I had no interaction with someone who was not heterosexual.
Since coming to the WarLight forums, I have been enlightened. No longer do I consider homosexuals as equals.

You should join clan league

Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Absolutely nobody can criticize Homosexuals for committing homosexual acts, since before you do you will have to examine your own sins, particularly sexual sins. The majority of people have committed fornication, adultery, or both, which are no different in God's eyes than homosexual acts. In the case that neither have been committed, There is absolutely zero percent chance that you are sinless. This whole holier-than-thou attitude that most american christians have towards non-believers is very disturbing to me.

My point is, Homosexuals are exactly the same in God's eyes as other non-believers; They are sinners who have not confessed that they are sinners and asked for forgiveness.

Which brings my second point; Homosexual acts are absolutely NOT okay.

Jesus also said "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven". It is very important for Christian Priests(in the version of christianity that I practice, everyone) to teach the law of God and not Attempt to abolish it.

To summarize, It is NOT OKAY to teach that Sexual sins(Fornication, Paraphilias, Homosexual Acts, Adultery, Incest) are Okay, and it is NOT OKAY to be mean to anyone based on their sins.

*mfw I saw Forbidden Knowledge's clan league comment yet again*

https://youtu.be/-9WrIs-N6ws?t=2m7s

Edited 5/19/2015 04:11:09

Intelligence of forbidden's comment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t97R3jxbl6E