^ That's a good point. Fascism is very revisionist, but then again you have to expect that from any nationalist ideology.

"Germany would have had a much better put position in world war 2 (still would have lost)."

I disagree. Germany easily could have won the second world war. Please entertain this scenario.

We know that Germany had Jet fighters as early as 1939 but never put them into production until 1944. Lets say the Germans would have had these for the Battle of Britain. Lets also say that when Germany conquered France in June 1940 that they also gained control of the french fleet. Lets also say that Japan declares war on Great Britain one year early and attack British ships in the pacific. With the help of the French and Italian Navies, German troops land on the shores of England and paratroopers land farther inland.

In this situation Great Britain would be checkmated.

Then with Britain out of the way, the Axis could regain strength and slaughter Russia in the next spring and summer before the cold sets in.

Even with all the Axis forces fighting unbarred (but with medium losses from the West Front) - you really think it would last less than a year? Russia is big - and the Germans didn't even get to Siberia, where the real fight begins. Napoléon lost, but took Moscow. Vasa lost, but took Moscow. Сибир

It would take years, not to mention America seeing a Europe dominated by an enemy is not something they want.

Partisan forces in Scotland and Middle Wales would also be a constant problem (2/3 French Interior Forces?)

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Xapy does have a good point. But mabye Germany could have convinced America that Stalin was worse and that we should side with Germany. (The Death camps were under construction in 1940 so it is a possiblity) that America would have sided with Germany.

Not to mention that if Germany owned all of the French and British empires (or controlled puppet French and British empires) that they would have a lot more influence over world politics.

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So what precisely would Germany do during this West war? Invade Fiji, Madagascar and Tamanrasset? Easier said than done.

But let's say it was done. American anti-Nazi/fascist propoganda was more intense than anti-Soviet propaganda. (And I think anti-Soviet propoganda completely disappeared 1941-1945).

The problem lies in that America was not on good terms with Japan. America really didn't have a horse in the Germany vs. Russia war but the peace talks were not going good with the Japanese.

Mabye if Germany had built an atomic bomb during a quiet time inbetween the invasion of england and the invasion of the USSR then they could just nuke Russia. But the earliest a bomb could be ready was 1945 for the Germans.

Dude... there is no way that scenario would happen. It just wouldn't.

Germany had knack for overextending their supply lines. It doesn't matter what day and age you are in, what sort of technology you have or equipment.

An army marches on its belly.

They did have a "horse" - they were for Britain and France, longtime allies (or at least better than the new revolutions of fascism and communism). Though America was reluctant to join, they still supplied Britain and France quite a bit. America was not against Japan, except for the grounds that it was allied with the supreme enemy (Adolf Hitler), as far as I know.

If Germany managed to build the atomic bomb first, and bomb Moscow, that would be devestating - but I think Russia would declare war on Germany before that - everyone read My Struggle and it was going to plan, so far.

"a army marches on it's belly" stupid super soldiers

The atomic bomb is really irrelevant in world war 2.

How can you say that?

Have you heard of the thousand paper swans?

Furthermore, it would be really relevant if it was made even earlier and by the Axis.

Genghis, I think you are just trying out these statements that noone else believes - and you like that noone else believes them because you think you're starting a trend. But whatever, it's not that annoying.

}"Elroi just chatted a lot of rubbish. I know he killed 6 million of your relatives but you don't need t lie... Germany is called Germany for a reason and that isn't because it is home to the Jews or the French... it's because it's home to the Germans. Hitler just killed Jews because it was good for the economy and nobody really cared. You have to remember that when you go to someone else's country you are a guest and you have no divine right to be there. What ties you to a land is where your ancestors and people lived... even though I originate in Germany I would never claim to be German. I'm English or Anglo-Saxon or British or Mercian. That's the land I grew up in and my parents and their parents grew up in. Jews were just as much guests in Germany as they are in Palestine. Germans are the people of Germany. No matter how much you hate Hitler do not blame the Germans as a nation. You went to them, they didn't ask you to come.
Open your eyes. See justice."

Are you serious ????? It's a nation that does not mean that you have the right to kill a valid citizen, and as you say it? It makes you Mooslmi not have the right to settle in Saudi Arabia, maybe let them slaughter your family because you are not an Arab !! .
History does not give you the right to do what you want, something the two of you even know how long Jews in Germany? There are already licking Jews in the Rhineland in 2000, we even have, before the Germans !! So I say go to hell, what rubbish are you talking about ?? You buy land you a citizen legally, I do not care shit is allowed because it "your country", this group of people came to the land abandoned does not mean they have a right to do what they want.
Besides, if what you say that's true, we were before the Arabs viral so I can also say I'm going to kill them, it means I will do it because of your twisted logic?
Secondly, according to genetics, most of the genes of Ashkenazi Jews of European genes it, besides then according to your ideas, your neighbor Mohammed can kill you and rape your mother, because you are British and you have no right to live in an Arab country ,,,, not so?

Hitler was a half-Aryan and killed Jews because through his point of view Jews caused the defeat of germany in WW1 .The shortest answers.Use Qoura if wanna know more and read Mien Kampf

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I didn't say it was alright to murder or rape innocent people. I just said you can't blame the entire nation for what happened. According to my logic Jews have more of a right to be in Germany than in Palestine because they have literally no ties to Palestine but their relatives lived and died prior to and dduring T4R.

"T4R"
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Are you kidding me Colonel? The Jews have every right to be in ISRAEL because that's been their ancestral homeland for THOUSANDS of years!

"Hitler just killed Jews because it was good for the economy and nobody really cared."

hitler started killing the jews in the middle of the war, after they had been excluded from german society. so the economic impact was small. and a lot of resources were diverted from the war effort to kill so many people. it was insanity. it did not help germany in any way.

The truth is no one cares where jews have rights or don't have to settle. If there is another genocide in this century, the anti-semites will not care. Israel has many enemies. Zionists are making Jews bad reputation which can be dangerous.

If I was a jew, I would assimilate into some other country, accept their culture and not be thought of as a jew. Really if jews assimilated in other countries their life would be much easier. Israel is a young country and fragile, only militarism prevents it from collapse at this moment.