^ Let's not make things harder for them. We've been through shit situations (remember "4 core reasons not to join CORP"?) so we should at least try to understand what the Falcons are having to deal with.

Kudos to FK for trying to actually help them.

I also thought of something... But it probably won't work.

It's probably too late, unless it is kick Colonel.

Colonel, from my perspective, is a symptom and not the problem. You need to have multiple failures to get to the point where someone like him has authority (and, formerly, MR) in a clan.

I'd suggest overhauling, simplifying, and further de-democratizing your clan management system. More than willing to discuss what's worked (and what hasn't) for clans I've been part of.

De-democratizing? I would be fine with that, except there's Colonel.
He is a symptom, but he plays a big role. Other parts are government secrecy, poorly run judicial branch, people leaving left and right and bad reputation. The Falcons are a bomb about to explode.

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Part of the "falcon problem" is that they created a democracy while nobody is actually active on the forums. This means that 4%-15% of the population could decide the fate of the clan. While Thomas was SUPPOSED to be king he actually doesn't do much other than take stances that are already popular with 100% of the people.

Colonel was supposed to be Thomas's "right hand man", "enforcer", "bad cop" but he took it way too far. Colonel started acting like he was king because the king was often gone or indecisive. Then when Colonel 'went bad' Thomas had to step in and Falcon politics went crazy. Many laws contradicted each other and the judicial system was inept, slow and sometimes ignored.

The root of the problem is that the Falcons doesn't offer much to its people. There are no incentives to be active, be involved in politics, or be in the clan. It was merely a symbol next to your name (like many clans).

If the Falcons would have thrown out all the bad politicians laws after they agreed they were bad and thrown out people who didn't want to be there in the first place or threatened to leave then the clan might have come back. But it didn't and now it may be too late.

F.Y.I. Don't invite any former Falcons in your clan until you can verify that they will be active, friendly, and or a good player.

De-democratizing?

Yes. It's not feasible to put up a vote for the entire clan. You need to delegate some powers to make things work properly.

It's the process, not the product, that matters. You need to come up with a system that actually works and implement it. Most clans have one, usually something that matches their membership structure and clan goals. Try to build a system that reflects those things.

poorly run judicial branch

Why do you even have such a structured government?

Based on what I'm seeing here, TRF is more or less a political simulator that exists within Warlight. Is that accurate?

What are y'all's goals as a clan? Like, why do your members congregate? Trying to figure that out so I can think of how you can build a structure around that.

The difference between this, and "3 Core Reasons not to join CORP (and 4 auxiliary)" is that Falcons are being severely hurt by Colonel, and their over-complicated political system. The thread Juq made only got us one of our best strategic players.

The thread Juq made only got us one of our best strategic players.

Who was that?

over-complicated political system

Very true, their current constitution (Like they really don't need one) is still over-complicated. They need clan tournaments, games. They don't even have a chat game to discuss even DIPLOMATIC games.

I wrote some stuff on the forum I need your ideas about.

@Ox:

To be fair, I'm not going to claim that as a victory of any kind. Getting a player to join is one thing- making sure that the clan does everything it can to meet their interests is another, and it's the second one that I care a lot more about. And I think we can do a lot more for our top strategic players (and for our strategic players in general).

Explaining Falcon Problems and Providing Fix
Colonel- Everybody Wants to Rule the World (Tears for Fears) Fix- Kick him out.
No Clan Games- We had some forum games. About two. We had tournaments. HAD. We had fun. Key- More community
Constitution: Over complicated system with too many loopholes. Key- Small Government
Democracy- Unstable and low voter participation. Fix- Representative government
Reputation- Donald Trump Fix: Get rid of Colonel

Lol Donald Trump.

Seems like Colonel needs to be kicked out and fast.

I think FalconGuy nailed it.

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PM me with a list of players from your clan (up to 20) and I'll set up an inter-clan diplo.

maybe the people running things are more interested in role playing clan government. that's all fine and dandy, but most of your clan is probably more interested in playing actual games of warlight. with all that time spent writing a loooong constitution, you could have made tons of games and tournaments instead.

if you have a big ass clan you can't expect more than a handful to care about a fake government that has zero impact on the actual game. if i wrote something that long and unentertaining i wouldn't expect anyone to read it.

Hey, maybe the Wolves could use a few scenario I recently released in that Template Pack and start up a few games for their clan?

I feel like I make these Pack Releases for nothing :p

Stuff is going down in the Falcons. Vote is going on to kick Colonel.

genghis, im not in the wolves anymore, but im sure some of the more active diplo hosters would be interested. try sending mail to andrew or zephyrum.

Any non-diplo clans want me xD