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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 20:46:59


Riveath
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^ Kaliningrad should be Old Prussian, but this nation no longer exists, so I proposed Lithuania as probably the closest to Old Prussia.

Brandenburg should be Sorbian.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 20:50:22


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Western Poland > Germany

Eastern Poland > Russia (Belarus)

There's no need for Poland to exist. It's a crappy place anyways.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 20:51:07


Riveath
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Get out of my sight before I do something extremely undiplomatical.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 20:55:57


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Error 102- word not found in dictionary.

Poland just takes up another slot when I make custom scenarios. What's the point?

Some countries you can understand but Poland?
I don't know who thought it'd be a good idea in the first place.
The only purpose it served historically was as an excuse to go to war against Hitler.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 20:56:11


Major General Smedley Butler
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Poland is a state for poles and Germany is a state for Germans. If there's no point for Poland then there is no point for Germany.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:00:00


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A lot like Scotland is a state for Scots.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:02:58


Riveath
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You do realize what you just said is even more idiotic than your usual posts, Colonel? ^
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:05:07


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Scotland isn't a state and if it became independent it wouldn't serve the best interests of the Scottish people.

Poland is part of the EU and Euro so basically it's a non-state anyway.

And if Germany is for Germans why are they letting all them migrants in?
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:05:31


Major General Smedley Butler
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Colonel you do realize Poland prevented the communists from going west and for about twenty years held a front against communism with Romania? You're anti-communist so I thought you would have liked that.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:06:42


Major General Smedley Butler
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Germany is a state for Germans those Germans elected leaders who get to decide what to do so they decided to let in migrants.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:07:36


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Also Poland was a country longer then Germany
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:10:53


Riveath
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Well, I guess we'll never see what life in an independent Scotland will be like before it goes independent. Besides, it would serve the interests of the Scottish people as the majority actually does want independence...

Poland was (and still is, recently the catholic party won the election and most of them are idiots) governed badly in history, but your argument is totally invalid, as the EU never pretended to be one country. And it's not part of Euro. You should have known that but I do realize your stupidity comes from ignorance here, so I'll forgive you for once.

Kindness? Economical profit? Or just Angela Merkel's politics?
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:11:46


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Of course I think Poland had some uses in the past but we have to stop moaning about the past and look to the future and the present threat is from the EU Maoists and their Fascistic tendencies.

Our natural ally in this regard should be Russia, who would benefit from exploiting Poland.

Then, when peace and democracy is restored in Europe we can give the parts of Poland which are historically German back.
Prussia still lives in the minds of the native people to its ancient fatherland.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:13:42


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Scotland is a state. It's just not a sovereign state. It's a constituent state. Also, it would definitely have the interests of the Scottish people at heart if it were an independent country. It would just also care about the immigrants and refugees living inside of it as well, and would welcome foreign workers, unlike what some people believe.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:15:10


Major General Smedley Butler
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we have to stop moaning about the past

give the parts of Poland which are historically German back.

If we argue from your first point of view then Prussia shouldn't become German again because we should look to the future, but if we use your second view point then Germany should be Balkanized.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:16:05


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Sorry I apologize if I was mistaken about Poland being in the Euro. It was a presumption and not a demonstration of ignorance in the field.

If countries were for their ethnically native populations why do they sell their citizenship to foreigners??

Look at how many ethnic foreigners hold British citizenship...
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:18:40


Major General Smedley Butler
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Colonel you quite literally argued two contradicting points and are now trying to avoid it.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:20:57


Riveath
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Historically German? All the land Poland has today was owned by them at some point in the past. If you consider parts of Poland historically German, then I consider parts of Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Moldova, Romania and Russia historically Polish. Though I'd really be satisfied with just Wilno, Brześć and Lwów. Not much, is it? :P

My point is exactly what you wrote : we shouldn't care that much about the past, but look forward to the future. Except that's the point where you're contradicting yourself, because if we shouldn't care about the past, why would Germany get back the land they owned in the past? What matters is the future and you were the one to say it.

Also, the choice of Russia as ally in the region is completely arbitrary. Russia is one of the states with most crimes committed by the government. The tsars, the bolsheviks and co. Now it's not as bad as it used to, but Putin is still one of the worst people in Europe at the moment.

Whether you choose to ignore the rational points I just made or not is up to you ; I'm just pointing out the obvious and numerous flaws in your reasoning.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:23:24


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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It depends on your view of the future.

I see a future in which Europe lives in peace and harmony and each nation develops independently its culture free from external influences and federalism of any kind.
This includes Poland.

However, if we look at Europe from a realistic point of view we need to fight against the "ever closer union" and growing tyrannical policies of the EU bureaucracy.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:24:33


Angry Koala
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Euskadi?
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