Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:26:47 |
Riveath
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^ The EU isn't the USSR, it brings more good things than it does harm.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:31:45 |
[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Britain is currently fighting for survival. The EU has taken control of our borders, our waters, our courts, our agriculture and our self-determination.
As Hitler himself once said, "We'll conquer Europe for Germany, then leave the rest of the world".
Wilhelm II had the same goal.
The EU is just another means of achieving that goal.
Russia was our friend against Hitler and she can also be our friend against Merkel.
It's alright pointing out Putin's flaws, but western leaders are hardly saints themselves are they? Blair and Bush for a start.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:34:47 |
[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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It's not about the benefits of being in a federation.
The USSR had benefits as the EU has benefits.
It's about the independence of nations and the preservation of culture and self-determination.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 21:39:07 |
Angry Koala
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Euskadi stronk! More relevant compared to Scotland! Euskadi askatasuna eta independentzia!!!!
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 22:43:33 |
Ox
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Scotland stronk! Euskadi can into irrelevance and not into space! Pure funay freedom ma'e!
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 23:15:29 |
Angry Koala
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Euskadi can into Space! We have one astronaut at least! Scotland pure funay! Yuo are really of irrelevance!
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-19 23:33:34 |
Ox
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at least Scottish protests is of peaceful! ETA can EAT me kilt fer a' I care!
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 00:21:59 |
GeneralPE
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1.No 2.Yes 3.Yes 4.No 5.Yes 6.Not Russian (unless accurate referendum confirms) 7.India 8.Whatever they vote on
Also, Arabs have no 'right' to Israel. They conquered it, ok. They become the Palestinians, ok. If they can hold it, good for them. Britain takes it, ok. They just did what the Muslims did in the first place. Fair's fair. They then give Muslims the ENTIRE F*CKING MIDDLE EAST EXCEPT ISRAEL AND THEN MUSLIMS GO B*TCH ABOUT NOT GETTING THE LAND THEY CONQUERED BACK!!!! They have West Bank, Gaza, Golan to make a country with. They could be happy with that, or move to Jordan. The Jews had to deal with losing their homeland to Egypt, Babylon, Seleucid, Rome, Muslims, etc. Then the fucking Holocaust!!! Have some sympathy for the goddam Jews! But no, rather than dealing with it like the Jews had, they go and fight a bunch of wars and get wrecked, then complain about Israel taking land from them in wars THEY STARTED!! Then, when people suggest giving them their land back, they say, no, Israel cannot exist. Plus, they are terrorists. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO PALESTINE OVER THE JEWS!!!
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 00:29:33 |
Ox
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The Israel/Palestine topic is a result of a number of promises that people have failed to keep:
1) The Brits promised a Hashemite Kingdom would exist, following the Great War. They did this, by creating Hejaz 2) The Brits promised a Palestinian state to exist. They would give them the land of Palestine, and Transjordan.
After Hejaz was conquered by the Saudis, the Brits gave the Hashemite people Transjordan, leaving Palestine with only the land of Palestine proper.
Following the Second World War, as a half-arsed attempt at making an apology for the Holocaust, the Allies promised a Jewish state. Naturally, they gave the Jews their "holy land" (Whether God gave them that land or not is debatable, but faith is weak, and if breaking a promise for the sake of something that may or may not be true is justified, please explain why). The Palestinians didn't like this. They thought "Hey guys, you already took Transjordan from us. Can we at least have Palestine proper?" to which the Brits replied "No. They're taking half of your homeland whether you like it or not." People use the excuse of "at least give them SOME of their land!" when Israel really had no right to saunter in, and demand land that the Palestinians had been promised for DECADES. The Palestinians fought for their land, sometimes with allies, but it was like a fight between a bug and a windshield, and the Palestinians got humiliated.
Regardless, Palestine is independent. How is it not? It's a functioning country, with set territory (some of which is being occupied illegally), and everything every other country has. People just say it doesn't exist, because it doesn't think that the country that took its land from it exists. You can kid yourself that Palestine isn't independent, but it's more independent than a lot of countries are.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 01:03:34 |
prussianbleu
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Israel has no right to exist, but they do exist so fuck. I agree, the Israeli Haters should calm down. However, Israel's tough of war with Palestine directly should be criticized, both sides are in an endless struggle to kill each other: Israel with the small strips of land given to the Palestinians and Palestine with its attacks on Israeli citizens.
Israel's flag should change to something a lot more secular, as well. In a world with no moral constant, these things just happen. I would advocate letting things handle themselves but I pretty sure the Israeli haters would go bat-shit and commit a bunch of rather appalling scenes which i don't want to be hammered with by Western Media, but then again Israel censors probably every douche-bag move they commit on innocent Palestinians. What is pretty much happening here is a case of some Vietnam War attrition. There are "soldiers" among the innocent, the Israelis just don't know who it is, moreover the "soldiers" fighting for independent Palestine (ik it practically is independent but comeon, not really) expect their neighbors to sacrifice themselves well, willing or not. Thus we get generations of individuals who learn from their grandparents how horrible the other side is, only prolonging the conflict indefinitely. Think about it like the Ukraine Conflict:[Pro-Russians believe they are fighting Fascists; Ukraine believes its fighting Communists].
Tbh, Israel exists (sadly) and Palestinains have suffered for it. But that was the past, the future should be more focused on increasing the survival rate for both countries rather than fighting over land. And yea, i get that this is "Holy Land" we are talking about but just deal with it.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 01:06:13 |
Angry Koala
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Israel exists sadly? stupid comments here again.
Go back to History class Mister KL before posting bullshit.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 01:51:16 |
The Mad Japanese
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1. Palestine Is Independent. Just under occupation from the Kingdom of Satan known as Israel.
2. Catalonia Should be given Independence. I personally don't like Spain
3. Kosovo Should be Independent just to piss Serbia.
4. Northern Cyprus Why not?
5. Kurdistan Should be Independent. If they are, they would be an Economic Powerhouse that could bring stability to the Region.
6. Crimea (as part of Russia) Why not?
7. Kashmir (as whichever country can own it) Should be part of Glorious Kazakhstan
8. Greenland. Should remain part of Denmark as an Semi-Independent Autonomous Region
9. Taiwan Should be given UN Recognition
10. Somaliland Should be given UN Recognition
11. Philippines Should have stayed as an American Colony
12. Hong Kong Why not?
13. Quebec Why not?
14. Scotland Why not?
15. Liberland F*** you Croatia
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 02:46:42 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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LOL the Kashmir question is so one-sided. Only see 2 people saying it should belong to India (and one of them is me).
If we're really being technical, Britain should have never split India before leaving so technically Pakistan, Kashmir, and Bangladesh would be Indian controlled. :P
Also I have learned never to inject myself into the Israel-Palestine debate unless you want to be labelled 1) Antisemitic 2) Islamophobic 3) or end up on the terrorist watch list.
Leave Israel alone. Its a country.
Edited 12/20/2015 02:49:41
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 04:47:19 |
[Falcon] Ayush
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Northern Cyprus -Greek economy is shitty .
Kurdistan-Independent .
Crimea-It was a Historical Russian Territory .
Kashmir-Pakistan should give up all the ILLEGALLY occupied territories.
Greenland- As it is .
Scotland-Part of UK as Scots want it to be .
Tibet -Should remain under Chinese Control .
Taiwan-Should be given UN recognition with China renouncing it's Claim .
Falklands-referendum
Edited 12/20/2015 04:47:43
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 16:36:43 |
DesertFox
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all forgot Transnistra .... (i don't care about it too much though)
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 16:59:35 |
Ox
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Scotland-Part of UK as Scots want it to be . Not true. If only Scottish born people were allowed to vote in the referendum, it'd be independent.
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Your opinion on certain countries...: 2015-12-20 17:22:36 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014Oh you mean this one^^^ How many referendums do they need? An 11 percentage point win margin is pretty definitive.
Edited 12/20/2015 17:23:06
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