All I have to say

is that anyone who doesn't see Trump as slightly racist or sexist at all

is likely subconsciously racist or sexist themselves

Calling the sky blue isn't racism, it's calling the sky blue.

Except Trump called the sky green when he suggested that a significant portion of illegal immigrants are rapists, when that just isn't true.

"find it funny you're calling him biased and non-objective. You realize he lives in China right?"

Last time I checked he was in Australia.
But anyway if you are talking about China, no he was in Hong Kong, and Mainland China and HK are different. I was also living in China 2 years ago, mainland China for 6 months, and so what? Tell me how this is relevant with trump's quote and the discussion about it?

"I'm not stupid enough to think the dude is the most racist, bigoted person that the world has ever seen like the media wants you to believe. He's not racist."

Never explicitly mentioned Trump as racist, if you read other participations I even said I actually believe he was not 'personally racist', nevertheless he many times had racist statements. This is why he is even more dangerous, this guy is a liar, not believing in his own words, trying to attract a populist electorate, in Europe we would consider this electorate as far right without a doubt, it is not really surprising to see Trump's strategy being quite similar to some other far right leaders such as Le Pen.

"The Mexican quote? That's not even close to racist. "

Not close to racist? misinformation on immigrants (as he explicitly mentioned most of migrants were criminals), targeting a community with a hateful rhetoric and tone this is not close to racist? It seems we aren't reading the same statement.

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"Except Trump called the sky green when he suggested that a significant portion of illegal immigrants are rapists, when that just isn't true."
A lot of them are criminals, whether drug dealers, rapists, murderers, or thieves.

A lot of them are criminals, whether drug dealers, rapists, murderers, or thieves.

An analysis of 2010 Census data in a report from the American Immigration Council, shows that 1.6 percent of immigrant males 18 to 39 years old were incarcerated, compared to 3.3 percent of native-born males. That disparity in incarceration rates has been consistent in the decennial Census since 1980, the report says.

Keep listening to politicians' lies, let them brainwash you. Each time you are listening to a politician you should at least inform yourself and find serious analysis and stats supporting or not a politician's statement.

A lot of them are criminals, whether drug dealers, rapists, murderers, or thieves.

It just isn't true. Most illegal immigrants come to the US so they can live a better life, not commit crime.
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/files/2015/07/aggfelonsCRS.jpg&w=1484

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"1.6 percent of immigrant males 18 to 39 years old were incarcerated, compared to 3.3 percent of native-born males. "
We are talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AS LEGAL IMMIGRANTS! STOP SPREADING DISINFORMATION!.

"It just isn't true. Most illegal immigrants come to the US so they can live a better life, not commit crime."
1). Trump only mentioned Mexican illegals (who are, I would guess, be more likely to be drug dealers).
2). Trump was only speaking of the people Mexico was sending/encouraging to come here, to rid their country of criminals.

Your first point is pure racism. You have nothing backing that up.
Secondly, Mexico isn't encouraging ANYONE to come over! Where are you getting that from?!

Strawpoll:

Which is more important?

Brexit
US Presidential Election
North Korea's Hydrogen Bomb

http://strawpoll.me/7028816

It's like when states were giving homeless people bus tickets to San Francisco to rid their city of the homeless people so another state/city could deal with that problem. We're talking specifically on illegal immigrants, no one is wanting to impede legal immigration. We want to stop our illegal immigration problem. To update the process so that the good people don't feel the need to pick the illegal method, and the bad people are stopped anyways. Why are you giving us an image from the Washington Post Epicular? That's a horrible source.

Not close to racist? misinformation on immigrants (as he explicitly mentioned most of migrants were criminals), targeting a community with a hateful rhetoric and tone this is not close to racist? It seems we aren't reading the same statement.

Mmk, so where does he say that legal immigrants are criminals? Where does he target a law-abiding community with hateful rhetoric. Do you live in a state on the Mexican border? I live in Houston, and get the local media outlets for the cities near me. I don't think you understand the extent of the illegal immigration problem. It's even worse that the politicians want to eventually naturalize these illegals (read the bill Rubio and the Repubs tried to pass in collusion with the Dems). No, we have to stop that problem. Yes, we have to identify the problem. There are criminals illegally getting into our country. Why is it racist to condemn them?

"Your first point is pure racism. You have nothing backing that up."
I apologize, I phrased that poorly; they are no more likely to be drug dealers, but to sell drugs in the US (that is what I meant). If you still think I am racist:
1). Mexican isn't a race.
2). I assumed it since I doubt Guatemalans are coming all the way to America to sell some weed, while it wouldn't be unreasonable for a Mexican to hop across the border for some quick cash.
When did deductive reasoning become racist?

Guys, I can deal with being called prejudiced or bigoted or simply wrong for this, but for the future, do not call me racist for this, as, after all MEXICAN. AND. ILLEGAL. IMMIGRANT. ISN'T. A. RACE!

@GeneralPE

It depends on whoever opinion if I lost or not that argument with pulsey. You're obviously in the right wing politics, so of course for you I got wrecked. It's a matter of perspective.

I don't feel like he proved I was wrong at any time. I just gave facts and argued my positions, and he just kept asking for more facts and then he said I was wrong because I was a liberal. But I guess sometimes people are too extremist to accept they've lost an argument. I can't say I won it, because he still remains in ignorance, I couldn't make him accept he was wrong and that is a shame, but I definetly didn't got destroyed.

@tomjh

1/ North Korean hydrogen bomb for sure. It's an imminent threat that should be taken care seriously.

I realize it's subjective, but you were reduced to one liners without substance, and not because he was being illogical and stupid.

EDIT: I think the NK bomb is huge, but I doubt they can achieve it. So I'm not too worried

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Dude, he said trump wasn't racist against mexicans, after I put that clear quote there... There's no way to argue further when someone thinks this.

And if you say mexicans are not a race, you're not entirely false, but it's at least xenophobic as hell that statement. And xenophobism is a word equivalent to racism, which is used really as a generalization now for any hatred against a specific group.

About the bomb, they already have atomic bombs in north korea. Hydrogene bombs is a bit different and they don't have it yet, but they have the technology to lauch an atomic bomb to Tokyo already, so yea, it's worrying.

Hmm.... haven't really seen or heard anything, but I will research it more

Sunday north korea threatened to lauch a nuclear strike against south korea and the US if they didn't cancel the annual war exercices that happen this week.

Now, I doubt the north korean regime can strike the mainland US, but they could strike several US islands and everyUS ally in the region, which is a bit problematic...

I must say, putting this on general has made it interesting. Several new people to argue and agree with. Good mistake

So to those offended, but if N. Korea did attack, it would give the US a reasonable excuse to nuke N. Korea.

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