Hi everyone !

Now, we know the lineups for CL8 in A, B, C, D and E.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ZjU7Au3iliShLR3aXLHthEIWWbpsEZ1rU5ctbCecCQ/pubhtml#

I propose to everyone to do some pronostics as we used to do. But this time, with a simple point system to calculate if we did better than the troll neighbood that pretent to be the best.^^

Everyone have to show here his pronostics for A, B, C, D and E. No equality is possible between two teams.

For a team, you make a point for each place of difference between the prono and its real final place. The player with the lower score takes the trophy.

Will be attribuated
-> A global trophy (lower score overall)
-> A trophy for each division

Only the place will count. But for fun, you can add all precisions you want!

I will edit this message later to put display the mean of all the pronostics as CL8 previsions... will see if the simple mean of warlight thoughts is a good predictor here. ;)

ONLY ONE POST FOR PRONOSTICS PER PLAYER PLS. DATE OF LAST EDIT BEFORE 06/05/2016 23:59

So you can edit/change your pronostics until sunday.

Edited 5/30/2016 16:50:22

Let's go for me.

A
1. GG
2. Masters
3. French Community
4. Apex
5. Icelandic Turtles
6. WG
7. Lynx

B
1. ONE!
2. 101st
3. Blitz
4. Ninjas
5. REGL
6. VIW
7. Stahlgewittern

C
1. M Hunters
2. VS
3. CORP
4. Hydra
5. BIA
6. LEA

D
1. Lost Wolves
2. Juggernauts
3. Hawks
4. FBG
5. Dutch
6. Olympus
7. Poon Squad

E
1. Acme Co.
2. 7th Heaven
3. NWO
4. AOE
5. Vikinger
6. {rp}

Edited 6/15/2016 15:27:47

I'm just saying it right now before anyone is posting: Blitz line-up will be changing, I just sent the changes in. The main reason for many changes are the fact that Gustave won't be participating, we are unsure about the reason still but Super Smoove is watching over his account right now if i'm correct.

Let me just put my predictions in here while i have my post here already.

Division A:
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. GG
4. Turtles
5. French
6. Lynx
7. WG

I think the Masters are just the best line-up they could get right especially in 1v1's and the 3v3 EU. GG also has a pretty nice 1v1 line-up but i think they will lose mostly in 2v2 towards Masters.
After that it's for me a close call for 3rd to 6th but with recent development of Turtles i've given them the 3rd place over the others (might be because i'm mostly looking at WGL results where French isn't in at any time). WG has suffered some losses as well as inactivity issues and results from last season was my reason to put them at the bottom of this Division.

Division B:
1. ONE
2. Blitz
3. 101st
4. VIW
5. SNinja
6. Stahl
7. REGL
ONE is definately the #1 in this Division for me although they still have to play their games and not make to many mistakes. Even if they mis Beren it isn't hurting them as much as other clans possibly missing a very strong player. From the places 2 to 4 it was actually a close call for me but I placed Blitz in 2nd because I have faith in our line-up against the other 2 clans. 101st is the obvious other contender for the 2nd promotion position but it won't be surprising me if REGL actually come around and take it. For the other 3 clans i feel like they just are a little short of competing for 2nd to 4th place but surprises can always come.

Division C:
1. VS
2. M Hunters
3. Hydra
4. BIA
5. CORP
6. LEA

Like many of the others just below me is VS a class on it's own in this division but after that I feel like many are sleeping on the capabilities of BIA and i feel like many are overestimating the abilities of CORP. The competition between the numbers 2 to 5 in this division might be very close in the end.

I'll be leaving it here since i don't know the clans in groups D and E enough to really say something about them although i'm pretty sure that Acme will win group E just by watching their line-up

Edited 6/13/2016 10:09:15

OK thank you Waka. But don't worry, everyone can edit their pronostics until sunday.

Yay! No confidence in Hydra!

[updated with roster changes]

Division A

1. Masters
2. Apex
3. GG
4. French
5. WG
6. Turtles
7. Lynx

Masters have 2 of the strongest 4 active players in the game right now, MoD and MotD, and they are both maxed out. Everybody on their roster is extremely strong, and Masters have come a long way since CL7. They will win, I am pretty sure. QB added makes them evern stronger.

Apex... oh, Apex. Playing with 3 alts, 1 recruit they just got (luckily) from AHoL, a semi-retired player, and then brisk, and Timi. A tiny roster. For mostly less active players, they will have a hard time keeping up with all their games. I think they can get 2nd with timon, but Apex is no longer Apex, and it is now "Masters+AHoL+WarLighters+ONE unite! (oh yeah and apex guys too)

GG have the most deep roster in the entire league, I think. I feel like their depth will help them. Players can pay more attention to the games that they're in, which will put their already strong roster, to an even greater level.

FC proved their skill last Clan League, and I think I'm placing them somewhat fair. A new recruit in Niko Boubou is good, but Gui was removed, which will surely cement their place below Apex this league, sadly. I'm sure they will however stay in Division A for next time.

WG! Stay in, you suckers! I'm rooting for you, as the underdog, and you can't leave now. Otherwise, Apex will have stayed in Division A the longest, and you can't have that. New recruits include smileyleg, almosttricky, and Reza [who came back from inactivity and joined the clan again u cuck hedja], but only 1 is competing! With Summer MIA (definitely their best player), they have to capitalise on Verze. Not to mention, Gnuffone, nich, Ineffable, who are seemingly active, are all not competing. STILL, not to mention, Tenshi, Lord Syvedyas and marc2013 are all inactive/retired, which makes their formidable clan page significantly weaker when on the battlefield.

Turtles, this is no diss to you. I think you will probably stay in A, and you have a stronger overall roster than WG, but I feel like rooting for the underdog in this case. Buns will dominate the ME SR tournament, and you have very active players playing lots of tournaments (which works in your favour, as opposed to Apex who have significantly less active players). Regardless, there has to be another relegation, and you will definitely have to fight for your promotion.

Lynx are dealing with some activity problems right now. They won't lose like AHoL or WM did, in 7/6; it will be very close, but because they have to reduce depth significantly (maxing out GreenTea, Dom, and andy: their 3 best players probably), it shows that they haven't improved too much since CL7. Clans like Turtles and Masters who have improved a lot since then, will definitely take it over them, and somebody had to finish 7th :(

Division B

1. ONE!
2. Blitz
3. 101st
4. SNinja
5. VIW
6. REGL
7. Stahl

ONE are almost definitely the strongest here. Even without Peixoto and Beren competing, they are such a formidable force that they will take this division by the ballsack. However, they do have opposition.

Blitz have improved A LOT since the end of CL7. New recruits include awesomeusername and GiantFrog, who are competing against old Blitz legends like wakanari and KKND. They will probably promote, but they are in very tight competition with...

101st. Say what you want about Platinum (no really, it's fun to bully him), but he made 101st progress incredibly fast. It has a shot at promoting, so it will be down to how few mistakes they make, in comparison to Blitz, that will secure their promotion spot (101st in A, and Lynx in B? Gah!!)

SNinja are a very strong clan overall. I feel like they can beat VIW, because their players improved so much, and will have a stellar performance in Europe (their Europe 3v3 ladder performance to reference) as well as across-the-board good play in real-time tourneys and ladders. I think they can stay in B this season.

VIW are generally less active than SNinja, but it will be though to call. AWESOMEGUY, Moo, and Metatron deck out their 1v1s, which they will do very well in, and Nogals adds to their already strong roster. They will not relegate, but will be fighting with SNinja for 4th place. Losing Turkish definitely took them out of a Promotion spot.

REGL... Less active recently, and without their (by far) strongest players, Hennns, and hedja competing, they will have a very hard time staying in the division. If they try hard enough, they might steal 5th from someone, but their roster is weaker than most of the C clans, which is worrying if you want to stay in B.

Stahlgewittern had a tough time in CL7 Division C, and with more inactivity following, they will have a really hard time in CL8 Division B. This last-minute promotion pushed them up to B, but they won't stay. I see little possibility for them to save their asses from relegation.

Division C

1. VS
2. M'Hunters
3. CORP
4. Hydra
5. BIA
6. LEA

VS did really well in CL7, and I think they're here to win in CL8. They belong in B, but they haven't seen nearly as much improvement as MH, CORP or Hydra since CL7, which puts their win at quite a narrow place. I can see any of the top 4 actually stealing this spot.

Let me discuss these next 3 clans in a block. M'Hunters, Hydra, and CORP is a show-down I'm sure loads of people have been, and will be looking forward to. Some clanmates of mine will dislike me for not making my own clan promote, but I'm not sure. I put M'Hunters to promote, because they generally have the most solid roster; their roster is not too deep, nor to shallow. But, they're so close to CORP and Hydra it's hard to tell. New guys include Super Smoove and AI, who are both maxed out, but less active MH legends, like Chromeo and Aldehyde also compete. I put CORP above Hydra, hopefully not because of bias, but because I think the individual matchups work more in CORP's favour. Hydra are fearsome in 3v3 games, but CORP have a stronger 1v1 and 2v2 roster which I think will take it over them. For CORP, new recruits are Quicksand, who will likely mop the ME SR tourney, but hasn't been maxed out. Thanatos D. Ven, Smutny Edgar, psykkoman, Ink Splatoon, and Fareck, compete alongside older Angry Koala, BigMeck, orionaux, Noobster, and The Shots. CORP's problem is still in its team games. While you see lots of variety in 1v1, with a player per template, you collectively see Ven, The Shots and orionaux appear 7 times across team tourneys! They are undoubtedly the strongest in team games at CORP, but this isn't very deep! Next, Hydra: Their roster I think, is too deep for their own good. They have many people competing, at the expense of their strongest not competing as much. Green Turtle, Hunta, Milly, and others, see themselves with Great Expanse, Ben, Zappyelf, and older AWF/Illuminati members. That's right! AWF/Illuminati's combination is very fearsome, and could easily steal 2nd place, because this 3-way matchup is hell, for all the clans involved. (Although I'm sure that M'Hunters think they will place 1st).

That was a huge damn text wall. Anyway, BIA are generally a weaker clan, and unless they can pull a stunt that really screws with the orgy above them, they are set for relegation. They have a more inactive, less skillful roster, which hasn't improved much recently. The roster that got them relegated from B might do the same to C if they can't pull their weight.

Aaaand, undoubtedly 6th place in C is LEA. Acme Co. are the offshoot clan that took all the good players with them, which hurts LEA so much that they can't come close to competing with the rest of these clans. Bye :(

Division D

1. Juggernauts
2. Wolves
3. Hawks
4. FBG
5. NL
6. Olympus
7. Poon Squad

Juggernauts I think win. They lost DR. Love, but still with dry-clean-only, and smileyleg competing, I don't see them losing 1st place. It won't be by such a big margin, but they will definitely promote, and probably be 1st.

Call me biased, but I think Wolves are second. Sorry to say, that knyte and Semice will carry this clan, but they also have old Wolf alts, like Onoma94 and Zephyrum, competing for them. A new recruit Turnips will help consolidate their lineup, and I think they will promote.

Hawks are a solid clan, who have Cata Cauda competing for them this time around (although he'll tell you it isn't him). They could steal 2 from Wolves, but I don't think they have what it takes to promote, just yet. They're a big spoiler clan in this division, depending on how matchups go.

FBG are old. 4 and 5 are in contention, but I think FBG have this spot.

NL could get relegated, but I'm not sure about their lineup. It's a mess down here for me, hehe

Olympus definitely have a weaker roster, without Nemesis, Chronos, Hades or Phobos. They'll have a hard time staying in.

Poon Squad lost even more; mamuc, freire, ieatpubes, Florian and Chris Peacock. They'll have to do a lot to stay in D.

Division E

1. NWO
2. 7th Heaven
3. Acme
4. AOE
5. {rp}
6. Vikinger

NWO have some Division B alts playing for them, as well as a very solid overall lineup. I predict them to take this division.

7th Heaven have strategic greats like Cloud Strife and Leviathon playing for them. The rest of their roster, I'm not sure about, but I think they'll promote.

Acme are a strong clan, the best of LEA are here. They are overall good, and might be looking at promotion. Not sure.

AOE have me competing for them, so with my luck, they won't promote. Seriously though, I think their roster is solid overall; not very deep, but they showed that their roster can do well in RPCL, and with a new face competing, hopefully they do well.

Frankly not too sure how good {rp} and Vikinger's rosters are, but... idk. I guess they can go there.

Edited 6/10/2016 18:27:19

Apex... oh, Apex. Playing with 2 alts, 1 recruit they just got (luckily) from AHoL, a semi-retired player, and then brisk, grona and Timi. A tiny roster. For mostly less active players, they will have a hard time keeping up with all their games. Without CHRIS, they would be much lower, as he is the best SR player in their clan, probably. I expect a few boots, but Apex's general great skill will secure them a podium spot.

Chris is better than me in SR? :(

Division A:

TBD

Division B:

1. ONE! 2. 101st 3. VIW 4. Blitz 5. REGL 6. Sninja 7. Staghlwittern
The only picks in this division I am reasonably confident about are ONE!, 101st and Staghlwittern. The middle seems mushy to me where all four clan could get be above or below my predications.

Division C:

1. VS 2. M'Hunters 3. Hydra 4. CORP 5. BIA 6. LEA

Shocking to no one, I have the same Division B as Ox but with Hydra and CORP swapped. I feel like this is probably going to be the end result of C. I don't know why Ox thinks Hydra will be strong on 3v3, I thought that to be our weakest area with 2v2 and 1v1 being stronger. Maybe we are strong on 3v3 by comparison? I think CORP did well last season in 1v1 understandably, but people aren't underestimated them again.

The worst part of this is that its last season ALL over again, M'Hunters, CORP and now Hydra. I can't get away from you people! :P

Division D:

1. Juggernaughts 2-7. Not a clue.

Juggernaughts should win this lightweight group. After that, the rest are just be through picks on the wall with no idea what's going to happen. Like PoonSquad didn't do that terribly last season so I don't know where to put them.

Edited 5/30/2016 18:15:11

Clans like LEA of BIA should prevent VS from relegation. Just look at the ladder peaks, no way VS will dominate, probably even Lawlz will score higher.

I filled each tournament with at least one peak 30 player, others are (more or less) puppets.

Edited 5/30/2016 17:02:37

@GE Poon Squad have lost Florian and mamuc to MH, Chris Peacock to Fizzer Appreciation, and ieatpubes left the clan. Down this road, how can they repeat their performance from last time? indibob is their strongest player left I think.

New recruits include smileyleg, almosttricky, and Reza

Yes, the new recruit Reza to WG.
lmao

A)I may switch a few around (3-6 is going to be close imo)
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. French
4. GG
5. Lynx
6. Turtles
7: WG

1. Yes masters!!!! dat 1v1 line-up is damn scary, and the team lineup isn't perfect, but it'll be enough to knock apex off top spot

2. Apex have a reasonable lineup, but I just don't think its on masters level right now, sorry guys

this is where it gets tricky

3. French MAY scrape 3rd... if they're lucky, I think without gui, they won't perform as well, but they have learnt, and they have a strong lineup, they may just be able to cling onto the podium position.

4. GG's line-up seems to have the same strengths and weaknesses as last time. A very strong 1v1 line-up, just as strong as masters, but a team line up which is just going to drag them kicking and screaming off the podium.

5. LYNNNNNNNX yooooooooooo, kind of surprised everyone's predicting us 7th, we had someone in 4 tourneys retire last time, so not sure how we would do worse (unless someone else retires...)

6. Turtles line-up is very varied, I think they'll perform very well in a few tourneys... and crash and burn in others. 3-6 will be very close, but I think the inconsistencies in turtles line-up will give them a bit of a disadvantage.

7. WG Alas, they were only saved last time by the activity of the 3 clans below them, I think this clan league they won't be so lucky. Their line up starts off strong, but their are a few weak points... and I fear they will be brutally exploited...

B) Close together ones... will be close together
1. ONE! (a fitting place)

2. 101st(I'm rooting for ya, but watch your back guys)
3. Blitz

4. VIW
5. SNinja

6. REGL

7. Stahl

I'll do the rest when I can muster the effort

Edited 5/31/2016 01:38:04

A:
1. Masters
2. apex
3. Turtles
4. GG
5. French
6. WG
7. Lynx

B:
1. ONE!
2. [Blitz]
3. 101st
4. [VIW]
5. Sninja
6. [REGL]
7. Stahlgewittern

C:
1. VS
2. CORP
3. M'Hunters
4. Hydra
5. BIA
6. LEA

D:
1. TLW
2. {TJC}
3. HAWKS
4. Olympus
5. FBG
6. [NL]
7. PS

E:
1. NWO
2. Acme Co.
3. AThE
4. 7th Heaven
5. {rp}
6. Preussen Garde
7. Vikinger

Predictions for fun; not doing as in-depth analysis as Ox (which, as usual, is fun to read), some bias here as well. :P

Edited 6/13/2016 14:50:11

A:
1. Masters
2. apex
3. French
4. GG
5. Turtles
6. Lynx
7. WG

B:
1. ONE!
2. [Blitz]
3. 101st
4. [VIW]
5. Sninja
6. [REGL]
7. Stahlgewittern

C:
1. VS
2. Hydra
3. CORP
4. M'Hunters
5. BIA
6. LEA

D:
1. HAWKS => maybe a little bit biased (=
2. {TJC}
3. TLW
4. FBG
5. PS
6. [NL]
7. Olympus

E:
1. Acme Co.
2. 7th Heaven
3. NWO
4. {rp}
5. AOE
6. Vikinger

... but actually I have no idea.

Edited 5/30/2016 18:20:12

Ok, PoonSquad is going to bomb. Though I should probably just make predictions for B and C as those are the only two divisions I care or know something about. A is about my head so I don't care what goes on there, D I just don't spend any time with those clans so I'm uninformed.

Division A

1. MASTER Clan
2. Apex
3. Icelandic Turtles
4. GG
5. French Community
----------
6. WG
7. Lynx

This one breaks down into the following sub-contests:

1-2: MASTER, Apex

3-5: Turtles, GG, French

6-7: WG, Lynx

The MASTER Clan is a quick favorite to win this division (balanced, active, growing), but Apex should still be a real challenger for the top spot. I expect French to decline significantly without Strategos, Turtles to outperform others' predictions (they're a mixed bag but imho balanced enough to pull off a podium spot), GG to narrowly lose a podium spot to the Turtles. WG and Lynx relegating because WG seems to be in a bit of a decline (or at least not growing as fast as the other A clans) and Lynx- while never the dominant strat clan- is now looking at being outdone by {101st} in strat capability.

Division B

1. ONE!
2. {101st}
----------
3. Blitz
4. VIW
5. SNinja
----------
6. REGL
7. Stahlgewittern

ONE! is a competitive, seasoned roster, and should be able to prevail over the others. I don't know much about VIW, Blitz, SNinja, REGL, or Stahl, but Stahl and REGL seem like the weakest rosters and VIW has Tony/AWESOMEGUY so that's not bad. {101st} has balance, though, and Blitz as well to a lesser degree. VIW/SNinja should get knocked off the podium because their rosters are a mixed bag and REGL and Stahl join the Division C party.

Sub-contests:

1-3: ONE!, {101st}, Blitz

4-6: VIW, SNinja, REGL

7: Stahl

Division C

1. VS
2. CORP
----------
3. M'Hunters
4. Hydra
----------
5. BIA
6. LEA

Sub-contests:

1: VS

2-4: CORP, M'Hunters, Hydra

5-6: BIA,LEA

VS is a shoe-in for the #1 spot; they've been a Division B clan for quite some time. BIA/LEA are obvious, in-decline contenders for the relegation spots.

So that leaves CORP, M'Hunters, and Hydra back in battle for the promotion spot and silver/bronze. Of the three, I think CORP's improved the most since Clan League 7- no longer as imbalanced/1v1 sided, but still in control of their formidable 1v1 roster. M'Hunters is better organized than they were last time, and they've had quite a few great players at their disposal, but I expect them to narrowly lose to a more balanced, possibly more prepared CORP. Hydra has also improved after the merger, but I don't see it being that much better than Illuminati or AWF and thus getting edged out by CORP and M'Hunters- who'll both be leaps and bounds ahead in skill of where they were in CL7 D1.

Division D

1. Juggernauts
2. The Lost Wolves
----------
3. HAWKS
4. FBG
5. [NL] Dutch Forever
----------
6. The Poon Squad
7. {Olympus}

Sub-contests:

1-2: TJC, TLW

3-5: HAWKS, FBG, [NL]

6-7: Poon, {Olympus}

TJC and TLW should both be competitive and hopefully shoe-ins for the promotion spots- TJC's fielding their regular competitive roster (smiley and all) and TLW's actually trying now and should be able to remain competitive in 1v1, 2v2, and 3v3 if their leader did his job right. Think this one will be interesting, with TJC edging out TLW due to more experience, more solid players, and more balance.

HAWKS, FBG, and [NL] are competing for a podium spot; FBG's just slightly weaker than they were in CL7, HAWKS look a bit stronger, and NL looks about the same.

Poon Squad and Olympus both lost their best players to other clans (M'Hunters, Lynx, realizing you really have more class than calling yourself "ieatpubes" and being in a genitals-themed group) and I expect their performance to reflect that.

Division E

1. NWO
2. ACME
----------
3. AOE
4. 7th Heaven
5. {rp}
6. Vikinger

Sub-contests:

1-2: NWO, ACME

3: AOE

4-5: 7th Heaven, {rp}

6: Vikinger

NWO and ACME are shoe-ins, AOE should outperform the other RP clans, 7th and {rp} should trail, and Vikinger will likely lose due to its recent activity problem.

Edited 5/31/2016 00:09:32

A:
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. GG
4. Turtles
5. French
6. Lynx
7. WG

B:
1. ONE
2. 101st
3. Blitz
4. VIW
5. Sninja
6. REGL
7. Stahlgewittern

C:
1. VS
2. CORP
3. M'Hunters
4. Hydra
5. BIA
6. LEA

D:
1. Juggernauts
2. TLW
3. Poon squad
4. HAWKS
5. Olympus
6. FBG
7. NL

E:
1. NWO
2. Acme CO.
3. 7th Heaven
4. AOE
5. {rp}
6. Vikinger

Edited 6/1/2016 00:21:53

>knyte implying that Yin Yang are competing

---------------
Division A
---------------
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. French Community
4. Icelandic Turtles
5. Lynx
---
6. GG
7. WG

Comments: Masters should win Clan League 8, but Apex will offer very good competition.

---------------
Division B
---------------
1. 101st
2. ONE!
---
3. Blitz
4. SNinja
5. VIW
---
6. REGL
7. Stahlgewittern

---------------
Division C
---------------
1. M'Hunters
2. VS
---
3. Hydra
4. CORP
---
5. BIA
6. LEA

Comments: CORP recruited Quicksand, but he's only playing for one tournament... The 6th and 7th spots seem clear to me, but the rest was much harder to sort than I thought.

Edit: Ying-Yang is no longer participating.

---------------
Division D
---------------
1. Juggernauts
2. The Lost Wolves
---
3. FBG
4. HAWKS
5. {Olympus}
---
6. [NL] Dutch Forever
7. The Poon Squad

Comments: It would be shocking if Juggernauts didn't get 1st. I agree with OxTheArtist: Semice and Knyte should be able to carry Wolves to Division C next season. I know too little about the other clans to make a good prediction.

---------------
Division E
---------------
1. NWO
2. ACME
---
3. 7th Heaven
4. Vikinger
5. AOE
6. {rp}

Edited 6/14/2016 12:46:53

A
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. Turtles
4. GG
5. Frenchies
6. Lynx
7. WG
Mostly guesswork/comparing other people's guesses. Realistically, most people in this division can outplay me badly enough for me to not know what the hell happened.

B
1. Platatoe's platoon
2. BLITZ
3. ONE
4. Ninjas
5. VIW
6. REGL
7. Stahlgewittern
Reason: Plat kidnapped my family; gotta rate them high otherwise he'll force them to eat his potatoes.

C
1. CORP
2. My Little Hunters
3. Hydra
4. VS
5. BIA
6. LEA
Reason: Quicksand. 'Nuff said. Realistically, as it looks, CORP's roster was just slightly inferior to M'H's pre-Quicksand, but with his arrival, now we have a 1v1 monster that I don't think can be stopped by anyone in this division. It'll be a close competition, for sure; Hydra and VS should be putting up a fight for the podium and maybe even de-throning the top ones.

D
1. Lost Wolves
2. Juggies
3. Hawks
4. Dutch
5. Olympus
6. FBG
7. Poon Squad
Reason: Knyte and Semice are fully capitalized, and a couple decent others across the board will definetely give them an edge. Do not underestimate the juggies, though; they have a select few monsters within them.

E
1. ?
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
Reason: Don't know the E teams well enough.