Division A
1.Masters
2.Apex
3.GG
4.Lynx
5.Turtles
6.French
7.WG

Masters will take #1, 2-6 will be tough and close, I don't think that WG will manage to stay in A

Division B
1.VIW
2.ONE
3.101st
4.SNinja
5.Blitz
6.REGL
7.Stahlgewitern

VIW, ONE and 101st will be competing for #1-3, SNinja and Blitz will stay in B, REGL and Stahl will have to do their best to prevent themself from relegation but I don't think that they're up to the task

Division C
1.VS
2.M'Hunters
3.Hydra
4.CORP
5.BIA
6.LEA

With VS, M'Hunters, Hydra and CORP there will be quite some competition but imo VS has the strongest lineup and proven themself to be really damn strong last season and BIA and LEA won't manage to stay

Division D
1.TJG
2.TLW
3.Olympus
4.NL
5.Hawks
6.FBG
7.Poonsquad

No idea about most of these clans, but TJG seems to have the best players and knyte has proven himself before when it comes to organizing a clan so lets stick to that

Division E
1.7th Heaven
2.Acme
3.NWO
4.AOE
5.Vikinger
6.rp

7th Heaven, Acme and NWO will have to fight it out for #1-3, no idea about the other clans

Edited 5/31/2016 17:26:04

TheRiverStyxie WarLight Member
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@Norman... Replacing Farah with a higher level ladder peak player? but but but it's not possible to cheat on a tourney ;)

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@Norman... Replacing Farah with a higher level ladder peak player? but but but it's not possible to cheat on a tourney ;)

Since you are obviously talking about AI, AI peaked at rank 30 with the AI account and with neither cheating nor being on a ladder run. Farah had one tournament, namely French Brawl, where I required a skilled player and I didn't replace him with AI but with Aldehyde. As for Farahs team games I didn't care who played them. For example fifi was ranked first on the 2v2 ladder with a 17:1 win rate. I wasn't looking for someone knowing kiiinda how to play this map but for someone following orders.

The reason I'm confident to win the C group isn't because I'm biased but because I see the ladder stats and achievements. Super Smoove won the last WGL together with TBest, fifi scored first in the 2v2 ladder on the map he is playing, our 3v3 ladder players are ranked 7th without a single non boot loss, Aldehyde managed to beat me in a 2v2 tournament,...

Edited 5/31/2016 17:33:08

1 man 1 position is the rule, and ChrisCMU's enforced it pretty well. But it's also not very hard to sneak past it if you're good at hiding alts.

AI peaked at rank 30 with the AI account and with neither cheating nor being on a ladder run

The AI account actually got hurt by cheating, since it surrendered to Niklas. So certainly not an example of a ladder team benefiting from cheating.

Edited 5/31/2016 17:42:48

i always find alts a bit pathetic to be honest

>Gazpacho
>Hawks
>Playing alongside Catus Cauda

--Division A--

1st Masters
2nd Apex
3rd GG
4th Turtles
5th WG
6th French
7th Lynx

--Division B--

1st Blitz
2nd ONE
3rd 101st
4th VIW
5th SNinja
6th REGL
7th Stahl

--Division C--
1st VS
2nd CORP
3rd M'hunters
4th Hydra
5th BIA
6th LEA

--Division D--
1st Juggernauts
2nd Lost wolves
3rd FBG
4th Hawks
5th Olympus
6th Dutch
7th poon squad

--Division E--
1st NWO
2nd AOE
3rd 7th heaven
4th ACME
5th Vikinger
6th {rp}

About div C, I'm a bit biased there, but I think our team is extremely motivated to perform well, and with their good skill as well, I think we can pull of the 2nd place

@Tjoex every clan, every player is hungry to play and perform well for Clan League. What makes CORP so special?

The bias. :P

WG won't get relegated. We also won't win it. But your predicted demise is ill founded. I will detail my predictions soon

Lolol some people have ranked us 1st and got away with it. Give ol' Tjooxy a break lad :P

But your predicted demise is ill founded.

TBH it's hard to put any clan in A into relegation spot - all of them are so strong it's almost unreal. WG and Lynx just happened to have worse score than any other non-relegating clan in A. :P
I will be surprised if winrates in Div A will be apart by more than 25%.

@Expanse: A weaker CORP roster managed to do really well in 1v1 in CL7 D1. That's been largely replaced by a new, stronger generation, and CORP's heavy-hitters now were largely not part of the clan during CL7.

Here's CORP's CL7 roster:

1v1
Strat ME WR: mm3100 (5-1, 1st place), > Illuminati, > M'H
Battle Islands: mm3100 (5-1, 2nd place), < Illuminati, > M'H
Greece: BigMeck (4-2, 3rd place), < Illuminati, > M'H
Guiroma: Derkie (4-2, 2nd place), > Illuminati, > M'H
Strat ME SR: siirial (4-2, 3rd place), > Illuminati, < M'H
Turkey: orionaux (2-4, 5th place), < Illuminati, < M'H

2v2
Strat ME: Elroi/mm3100 (2-4, 5th place), > Illuminati, < M'H
Guiroma: Chancho/Ox (5-1, 1st place), > Illuminati, > M'H
Szeurope: Arjan Visser/Konrad Kulgajuk: (2-4, 5th place), < Illuminati, < M'H

3v3
EU WR: Konrad/Noobster/Shots (4-2, 3rd place), < Illuminati, < M'H
EU SR: oljo/Spike/yoda (3-3, 3rd place), < Illuminati, > M'H

Strong on 1v1, weak on 2v2 outside Guiroma, mediocre on 3v3

Now compare that to their CL8 roster (using * to denote a player not in their CL7 roster):

1v1
Strat ME SR: Quicksand*
Guiroma: Ink Splatoon*
Greece: BigMeck
Battle Islands: Smutny Edgar*
French Brawl: Thanatos D. Ven*
Treasure Map: Angry Koala*

2v2
Final Earth: Smutny*/Fareck*
China: Thanathos D. Ven*/psykkoman*
Strat ME SR: Thanathos D. Ven*/The Shots

3v3
EU SR: Noobster/The Shots/orionaux
Great Lakes: Angry Koala*/The Shots/orionaux

You see an already strong CORP 1v1 side get replaced by a stronger side (although they've also lost mm/Chancho, who'd likely still make at least 1 appearance each on here). They've likely put in a lot more practice into 2v2 and 3v3 and will be less mediocre there, and they've put in stronger players for their team slots. Their weaker players have also developed considerably.

This isn't unique to CORP- M'Hunters' lineup is at least as different, if not more, from M'Hunters' CL7 lineup. Hydra seems to be less changed here, though- lineup doesn't vary as dramatically from the AWF/Illuminati lineups from CL7 D1/D2.

Imho, it's going to come down to whether CORP's big shoves will get them past M'Hunters' improved roster. Either side could be argued with the limited info Tjoex probably has, since M'Hunters and CORP are both wildcards and it's hard to predict whether they'll be fighting for the top spot vs. VS or fighting for the 2nd promotion spot vs. Hydra.

I have a feeling people are not really looking a matchups. I predicted every matchup. I will revise mine when i find out who grona is replaced with (beren just told me he is out).

That being said, it should not change my finish order, maybe just point totals...

1) masters
2) apex
3) WG
4t) french
4t) GG
5) Turtles
6) lynx


I think Masters gets over 180 pts. Last season 164 took the title.

I think apex will only slide slightly with some people not being active. I have them at about 150 pts.

Yes, I predict WG ahead of GG and French. Some might be homerism, but Latnox went 6-0 and Mike 5-1 on solo games from GG and Gui 9-3 for French in team games. They will all be missed and point totals will suffer. I predict them both in the 100-110 pt range.

WG will miss gnuffs greece 6-0, but I think we only lose 6 pts there. Tenshi went inactive, Summer got booted. I think we offset those pt losses from Gnuff just by people not being booted. I am not predicting a change in pts for WG really, to stay in the 110-120 pt range

I predict Turtles and Lynx in the 95-100 pt range, so one or both could avoid relegation IMO.

Edited 5/31/2016 21:41:06

I have a feeling people are not really looking a matchups.

Too tough to do for all leagues at once. Much easier if we take it 1 league at a time.

Easy to do for a divison when you program a sheet that does it...as i did.

I wont predict other divisions as I do not know the players all well enough

Edited 5/31/2016 22:18:25

WG getting 3rd without Gnuffone, Summer and Tenshi seems very realistic.

Again, not looking at matchups is dumb. Why just look at who is playing? We went 3-3 on both 3v3s with gnuff and summer because she got booted. Not to mention these are not even the same templates. You guys are comparing apples to oranges

And not looking at points is dumb too. Try actually predicting every matchup before telling me I am wrong

Edited 5/31/2016 22:30:40

Some might be homerism, but Latnox went 6-0 and Mike 5-1 on solo games from GG
Yes its true that GG won't have both Latnox and Mike this season, but you didn't account all the new talent that GG has brought into their clan. And also looking at last season, people should realize that you shouldn't underestimate French. However League A is really hard to decide, I'll give you that.

Well, the point is to be bold. I did not predict french surge last season either, and did not predict WM collapes before that. something odd always happens, why not be bold?

Here is my matchup predictor (you can copy the sheet and use it and change to any division):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-ywmwV_V5BEhx_Qx_jP9aGa2kmSPEKFwNGIpi9YUgM/edit?usp=sharing

Edited 5/31/2016 22:40:39

@ChrisCMU: Agreed. I've used the Clan League sheet for predictions in the past. Just too time-consuming to do it for this little contest since we're talking about 5 division with 6-7 clans (36-126 players) each.

Not sure why you made a new sheet for predictions when you could just as easily use a copy of the main sheet.

Edited 5/31/2016 22:43:57