I apologize. I thought a discussion of cheating in Clan League 8 Division C belonged in the Clan League 8: Division C - Official Thread.

They are ladder partners... so it should be fine! and thanks for ignoring me :/

If what knyte said is true it is cheating, for sure 100%. Last season I was going to use Blortis's account in case ( I didn't), and Lolowut said he was going to see if the state changes. It's not allowed.

Edited 7/21/2016 16:08:54

If Fizzer did he job and investigated cheating (all of it, not just accusations against a few clans), then I doubt we would have vigilantes trying to impose their form of justice.

Because the standard authority is neglecting its job then others feel they have to take that authority upon themselves. I don't condone it but I understand why a few feel justice isn't being served.

Edited 7/21/2016 18:10:06

Hi
im not good in writing in english, so sorry in advance.
Thank you Greate expanse and the others who helped him updating the leauge!
It was a pleasure to go through it!
it was a nice season and congrats to the winner!
Nevertheless my opinion about some clans has drastically changed(i guess no 1 cares;)).
If i where in a clan with a kind of dictatorship and silly leader or with people
who post in forums weird things,bragging around without doing any efford then
throwing mud...then i would take the best players and leave to build a decent clan!
Everybody makes mistakes and can write stupid things if they really are involved
in the situation but insisting and continuing to show such disrespect to others
creates the impression of the whole clan ,who is represented by everybody.
Sorry guys for my bad performance! someone else could surely have earned more points than me.

Edited 7/21/2016 20:17:01

NOTE TO CLAN LEAGUE READERS:

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Pages 6-7, 11-12, 15, 17-20, 25-30 pages of Division C need to be avoided as they contain little to no content that pertains to the topic of this thread: Clan League Season 8, Division C.

Week 5 Summary:

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Sorry for the delay, but the last day has been very busy for me. We are 5 weeks into Clan League, and 72.12% of games are completed, up marginally from 66.67% completed at the end of Week 4.





Hydra (3-2) this week move up this week, BIA (1-2) this week moves down. What a surprise.....

VS (2-0) and M'Hunters (2-1) this week are both continuing to do well. VS is a bit closer to M'Hunters then they've been in awhile, as well with VS having played two fewer games then M'Hunters, this race for 1st could be tight. If only the race for 1st was more then for bragging rights. A very interesting result, already alluded to by a VS player, is VS beating M'Hunters on 3v3 EU.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11491942

CORP, um, (0-1) this week. Not a hell of a lot going on there. 1 game in a week. Ok....

And lastly LEA, congrats on breaking your 19 day losing streak where the clan fell from (5-20) to (5-36) before steering out of that skid with 1 win on 1v1 Guiroma. LEA may not reach the 25 points I predicted they would end with. But I have been wrong many times before.



Let's quickly look at a few games LEA won this season:

• 1v1 Guiroma: Gyver vs. AI: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11411003
  Gyver won this game, the first game finished this season because of an error on turn 3 by AI where they did not move a stack of armies. Gyver out expanded AI. You can also add in the contributing factor of Gyver started in the safer east, a decent positional advantage. Gyver won this game when their opponent clearly didn't click in their orders correctly.
  
• 1v1 Greece: BigMeck vs. 1h70: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11461817
  A boot win on picks

So those two games demonstrate the two types of wins LEA has gotten so far. Gyver beat 3 opponents on 1v1 Guiroma, which is awesome! Then LEA has won 3 games via boot win during picks or turn 1. I will give kudos to Gyver so far for being by far the best LEA player in their lineup. Overall, this is rough though for LEA.



So, with a potential finish of M'Hunters, VS, Hydra, BIA, CORP, LEA, did anyone get it right in the prognostic thread for season 8? No. No responses in that thread had that order. But there are a couple contenders for the most accurate predictions this season:
wakanarai (Blitz): VS, M'Hunters, Hydra, BIA, CORP, LEA
ZeroBlindDragon (Lynx), Tac(ky)tical (Outlaws) KKND (Blitz): M'Hunters, VS, Hydra, CORP, BIA, LEA

So, getting BIA in 4th place and CORP in 5th is way more important then mixing up getting the order of M'Hunters and VS in 1st and/or 2nd in my opinion. To me, wakanarai has the most accurate prediction so far. Things can change, VS could pass M'Hunters (more likely then a late comeback by CORP to overtake BIA) but wakanarai probably will finish with the best Division C prediction.

it was a nice season and congrats to the winner!

The tournament isn't over yet.

Gap is closing.

Wonderful update as always GE. MH has always done better in lvls then team games so I expect the following few weeks to be close indeed.

Regarding, the Hydra/BIA competitive I have to congratulate Hydra for pulling ahead. It was unbelievably tight for a while.

I'd also like to point out that if 3rd place gets a promotion then LEA (who will likely come in last) will not be relegated.

I never thought about LEA not getting relegated if 3 people promote. The only reason why I have assumed LEA would relegate is because I thought someone had to relegate, regardless of the number of people that promote. Maybe that is my personal views spilling over from the P/R League I run.

I love your updates GE, you are doing a great job. Thanks for the time you invest in those.

and yes the race for first is far from over. BIA still has a good shot at 3rd as well, yes they dropped back but 4 points isn't a ton.

Edited 7/22/2016 17:21:27

yeah- I think in a perfect world there ought to be at least 1 mandatory relegation as well as 1 mandatory promotion- but then it gets into the outside variables and numbers necessary for the next season that have to be accounted for- so I'll leave that to the guys with bigger brains then me

1v1 Gurioma Summary:

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    Clans                    Record
1st M'Hunters (AI)           (4-1, 1-0)
2nd VS (vicus)               (4-1, 0-1)
3rd LEA (Gyver)              (3-2)
4th Hydra (HankyPinky)       (2-3)
5th BIA (DrummingManiac1)    (2-3)
6th CORP (Ink Splatoon)      (0-5)

Congrats to M'Hunters and AI for winning the Guiroma tournament. The freak loss to Gyver of LEA didn't prevent AI from winning this tournament. VS came in second and at this point there is an overall trend to the 1v1 tournament finishes that is readily apparent. M'Hunters and VS are doing better then the BIA, Hydra, and sometimes CORP or LEA, but its their general consistency across the templates that has put them above the rest.

1v1 Summary (So Far}:

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    Clans               Record        Games Remaining
1st M'Hunters           (22-7)               1
2nd VS                  (19-9)               2
3rd BIA                 (16-13)              1
4th Hydra               (16-14)              0
5th CORP                (8-20)               2
6th LEA                 (6-24)               0

M'Hunters and VS are ahead of BIA and Hydra, but the gap isn't as large as some would think. The team games are masking the disparity right now, with M'Hunters and VS doing much better then Hydra and BIA there then 1v1s. The same is true for CORP and LEA; CORP is very close to LEA on 1v1s but its the team games, where LEA has been terrible so far, that has allowed CORP to pull ahead of them.

We are in luck with the 1v1s as the remaining games are on French Brawl and we can observe the maps and see the likely winners in each game. As or right now the following players are leading:

• Private Pabse (VS) vs. Thanatos D. Ven (CORP): https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11509941
  Income is 14 to 9 for Private Pabse, although Thanatos has income that can be protected better then Private Pabse's. The next turn is pivotal to determine if Thanatos can break Private Pabse's income and make this game competitive again. But at this time I am inclined to pick Private Pabse as the winner/
  
• Aldehyde vs. Thanatos D. Ven: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11553271
  This game is still early on and right now Aldehyde just broke the deadlock to take a lead in income 11 to 7. As well, Aldehyde as the eastern region of France safe. Positionally, Aldehyde has this game locked up imo. But I'm an amateur French Brawl player. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  
• Botanator vs. Private Pabse: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11587084
  This game is getting deep into it and I don't see how Botanator can lose this. He leads income 12-8 and has safe income in the northern region with a bonus contesting Pabse's income in the south. Botanator should finish this game up in a couple of turns.

With those 3 final games, I anticipate the finals results to be:

    Clans               Record        Games Remaining
1st M'Hunters           (23-7)               0
2nd VS                  (20-10)              0
3rd BIA                 (17-13)              0
4th Hydra               (16-14)              0
5th CORP                (8-22)               0
6th LEA                 (6-24)               0

BIA will edge out Hydra in the 1v1s putting the onus on Hydra now in the team games. CORP staggers to a disappointing finish just ahead of LEA. M'Hunters wins out on 1v1s, with VS not too far behind. The race is far from over.

http://bit.ly/mh-cheating

I'd call this sufficient evidence any day, not replying shows that the Clan League is becoming corrupt like every other game or sport.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/141458-clan-league-8-preparation-thread

Read the 6th rule and don't embarrass yourself no more, please.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THERE IS A THREAD FOR THIS ALREADY! GO THERE!

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/168387-call-exclude-mhunters-community-events?Offset=0

@Chromeo, could you show me a declaration of this?

(Let's keep all conversation related to http://bit.ly/mh-cheating in the other thread. That way, people looking at the Div. C thread in the future will have an easier time searching for actual updates.)

Hmm looking at Ven's linked games, I'm personally confused by his picks and early gameplay. I'm also a French Brawl amateur, but could someone explain to me the logic behind them?

Hey guys I was bored and I made this statistics compiled list for this Group:

http://tinyurl.com/CL8Stats