Clans have voted and the templates which will be used in CL9 can be found here - https://www.warlight.net/Forum/224489-clan-league-9-template-voting

Next steps:

• Read this document thoroughly. - https://goo.gl/xT2dzg
  
• Submit your clan's roster.
  
• Submit your clan's lineup based on the templates which have been selected. [Use the format specified in the 2nd post. Any other format will be rejected.]
  

Private message your roster/lineups to both these players before the deadline.
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2428496679
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=314032996


The deadline for roster + lineup submission is 1/28/2017 00:00:00 UTC. Any clan which fails to submit a lineup/roster by that date will be removed from the league. DO NOT wait until the last minute to submit lineups. If there are errors, we need time to correct you.

By submitting a roster, you and your clan accept the following:

• You have read the document above in its entirety.
  
• Any issue which arises during CL9 will be decided by the rules stated in that document.
  
• Any issue which has not been covered in that document will be addressed by the CL panel to the best of their ability and you will respect their decision. If you think there is some obvious rule that has not been stated, please let us know and we will consider it.
  
• Abuse of the panel or trolling will not be tolerated and is valid grounds for removal from this league.

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Roster

Every clan can submit a roster of up to 25 players. Every player in the line-up must be a part of the roster. In the event of a substitution, a clan can only pick a player on their roster.

Any player present in a clan's roster must also be a member of that clan on the date of the submission deadline. Alts are not permitted in the roster/line-up.

If a player with accounts in 2 clans is enlisted by both clans, they will be removed from both clans' rosters. The player must then clarify with the CL panel which clan they wish to play for.

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Lineup

• Group A/B
  
  Every clan must submit a lineup to fill all their slots(six 1v1, 2 * three 2v2, 3 * two 3v3). In total there are 18 slots per clan. A player can be put in a maximum of 3 slots. Any player listed in a clan's line-up must be a member of that clan on the date of the submission deadline.
  
  
• Group Q1/2/3/4
  
  Every clan must submit a lineup for each of the two Stages. A player can be used in a maximum of 3 slots over the two stages.
  
  • The Stage 1 line-up contains 8 slots( three 1v1s, 2 * one 2v2, 3 * one 3v3). No player can play in more than 2 slots in this stage. This means that each clan must have a minimum of 4 players in this stage to be able to compete.
    
  • The Stage 2(C,D1,D2) line-up contains 10 slots ( three 1v1s, 2 * two 2v2s, 3 * one 3v3).
  
  The line-up for both stages must be submitted before the start of the league when groups are drawn for Q1,Q2,Q3,Q4. However, a clan may make any number of changes to their Stage 2 line-up before Stage 2 actually begins. These changes will not count towards their limit of 6 substitutions over the course of the season.

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Edited 1/26/2017 16:59:55

Sample lineup + roster for a hypothetical Apex.

Roster

			
Kenny • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=635295275			
darkw1ng	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=1911556148			
Widzisz • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=202386428			
brisk • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=597786678			
ultimaratio	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=426035226			
grona • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=213759586			
Frank • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=129117599			
Gol D. Roger	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9835535151			
dunga • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=955485421			
timon92	        https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4736323931			
Deadman • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=8543834393			
Luxis • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=525300947			
Lúthien • apex	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9927790984			
Dark Wizard	https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=1525862797

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Lineup

Format	Template                   Player1                   Player2                   Player3
				
Stage 1				

1v1	Guiroma                    dunga • apex		
1v1	Old Strat ME               dunga • apex		
1v1	Volcano Island	           Luxis • apex		
				
2v2	Guiroma	                   darkw1ng	             grona • apex	
				
3v3	Deadman's Rome	           Kenny • apex	             Lúthien • apex	        Dark Wizard

				
Stage 2	
			
1v1	Elitist Africa	           Gol D. Roger		
1v1	Phobia	                   grona • apex		
1v1	Strat Greece	           dunga • apex		
				
2v2	China	                   Deadman • apex	     Gol D. Roger	
2v2	Final Earth	           Deadman • apex	     Lúthien • apex	
				
3v3	Europe	                   Kenny • apex	             Gol D. Roger	       Lúthien • apex

Edited 1/9/2017 02:36:22

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Edited 1/25/2017 17:13:17

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Group Q1/2/3/4

Every clan must submit a lineup for each of the two Stages. A player can be used in a maximum of 3 slots over the two stages.
The Stage 1 line-up contains 8 slots( three 1v1s, 2 * one 2v2, 3 * one 3v3). No player can play in more than 2 slots in this stage. This means that each clan must have a minimum of 4 players in this stage to be able to compete.
The Stage 2(C,D1,D2) line-up contains 10 slots ( three 1v1s, 2 * two 2v2s, 3 * one 3v3).

I summarize:
1 player can play in 3 tournaments over the 2 stages.
No player can play in more than 2 slots in Stage 1 (It is clearly said "in this stage" -> so it isnt meant for stage 2?).
Means in Stage 2 a player can have 3 slots theoretically?

I am asking before, so we can be friends while CL9 is running :)



>>>EDIT: I can answer my own question. In the document you shall read closely it is also said for stage 2<<<

Edited 1/9/2017 16:54:07

You can have one player in 3 slots in Stage 2 if they did not participate in Stage 1. If you look in the sample apex roster, Gol D. Roger is in 3 slots in Stage 2.

Edited 1/9/2017 17:02:22

Every clan can submit a roster of up to 25 players. Every player in the line-up must be a part of the roster. In the event of a substitution, a clan can only pick a player on their roster.

So lets say the Hydra lineup has 9 players across the two stages. I can add 16 additional players from the clan to the Hydra roster?

So lets say the Hydra lineup has 9 players across the two stages. I can add 16 additional players from the clan to the Hydra roster?

As long as they are all in your clan on the submission deadline, yes.

In the case a player is in two separate clans, do we have to state what the player's account is in both clans? Also, do we have to specify their "main" account? If they want to play on the account that is in the clan, but is not their "main" account, which is in the other clan, how would this be specified?

I ask these questions in regards to Pardon99, whose main account is in ONE!, however who is playing in FCC under "Jyu Viole Grace", and will be playing under the account "Jyu Viole Grace" this clan league. Under what name, and if both names, in what order, would we put him in on our roster?

EDIT : See response below.

Edited 1/13/2017 03:51:30

EDIT : See updated post @ https://www.warlight.net/Forum/231273-clan-league-9-roster-lineup?Offset=27

Edited 1/13/2017 16:25:52

Um, I am not sure about your metric to define a main though. For example, almosttricky will be playing for us (his alt is The Guy in SNinja). I cannot be sure he has the most points on his main in the last 30 days though, hopefully he has played that account the most lately. I suppose if that were not the case, he would need to switch accounts to remedy this?

EDIT - it is not even close, he has barely played The Guy lately. But that scenario could happen, so best that people know what they need to do to comply.

Edited 1/13/2017 04:41:02

Yeah I agree. If we can all agree of what a main is(and it's really obvious which account is the main in almost all circumstances), we can use common sense.

Having had a rethink on the restrictions of players representing clans, we feel that the spirit of Clan League should be to represent your primary clan. Since playing with an alt allows you to sidestep these rules, we have decided to clarify a few points.

1. A player must be a member of their clan for the entire duration of the clan league. If they leave the clan for whatever reason, they must be substituted immediately. When creating a game, if a player is not in the clan they are representing, the CLOT will award a loss for that game.

2. A player must play on their main account and not place an alt in another clan to sidestep these rules. A main account is defined as the account which has earned the most points earned in the last 30 days.

3. We will permit 8 substitutions per clan due to the clarification on 1.

4. We have also decided to extend the deadline by a week to 1/28/2017 to give clans more time to accordingly form their lineups. You are welcome to submit your lineups earlier :)

I'm going to have to disagree with your reasoning here. My alt currently has more points from playing on the ladders, but most of my activity is on my main. By this rule I can't represent the FCC. Other players in the FCC is also brought into question with this.

You're gonna have to make some exceptions, or I'm in trouble.

Yeah, I was thinking maybe someone played a seasonal ladder with a 2nd account for whatever reason and ended up with more points on that one for the last 30 days even though their main account has like %90 of their total points. Not sure that is going to come up though.

I wish to make the request that you postpone this rule until next season. I feel that this rule is really unfair to several clans who may have one or two players playing for them with "mains" in different clans. Also, if your goal is to maintain professionalism in clan league, then adding a rule like this, so suddenly, does not seem to support that. I understand your motivation for the "Spirit of Clan League", however, changing rules like this changes the dynamics of a carefully thought-out roster in the works for months. You may have just sunk some clans who may be unable to recover adequately in time.

I apologize is this critique is overly sharp, but between EIC collapsing/being hijacked, the FCC mass absorption of players because of it, NoonTiger going off his rocker and insulting the FCC and former EIC leaders, and the fact that I should be doing statistics right now, really has me on my edge, and is wearing away at my fuse.

Edited 1/13/2017 05:29:29

1. A player must be a member of their clan for the entire duration of the clan league. If they leave the clan for whatever reason, they must be substituted immediately. When creating a game, if a player is not in the clan they are representing, the CLOT will award a loss for that game.

If a person leaves a clan mid season for any reason, I don't see how that should impact the lineup. If the point of this rule is to preserve the integrity of the definition of a clan, then allow clans to add new players to their lineup mid season. I might have a new recruit that was clanless added to my clan, and I want to sub him in. Because he wasn't in the clan months ago, he can't play apparently. So this rule along with the roster rule, means that clans are defined as 25 players that existed in a clan at the time the league started and can slowly atrophy over time with no new additions. I don't feel like that aligns with the definition of a true clan. I strongly feel this rule should be removed. It creates headaches for everyone.

2. A player must play on their main account and not place an alt in another clan to sidestep these rules. A main account is defined as the account which has earned the most points earned in the last 30 days.

Defining a main through points is a bit iffy. The only way I can see a way to define a main is to make a rule that the account a person plays with, they must play with it for at least 2-3 seasons. That in addition to the clan switching rule will make it hard for players to hop between clans through the same account and alts. Sure, you can lie about your alts, but alts often come out of the woodwork eventually.

3. We will permit 8 substitutions per clan due to the clarification on 1.

If rule 1 is going to stand up for this season, which I hope it doesn't, make any substitution that is the result of a player switching clans not count against a clan's quota. It is only fair as the clan is being forcing to substitute players.

Edited 1/13/2017 06:06:48

Looking at rule 1, I see it causing lots of problems. How many people changed clans during a Clan League 8 season? Response = A lot. All guys that will be recruited to "higher division clans" will have to be replaced in their division C clan, probably by someone lesser good.

Let's say a guy is in Juggernauts, let's call him Irgeur. He begins CL9 with Juggernauts but hasn't reached his true potential yet. He plays for 2 months in CL9, everything goes well and he keeps improving during that time on ladders and other important tournaments. Someone from Blizt or Outlaws approach Irgeur and ask him to join their clan. Irgeur likes Juggernauts but feels that he could improve even more his gameplay by joining a clan like Blizt or Outlaws.

His decision before CL9 wouldn't have affected the clan as much as now; before, his decision of leaving Juggernauts for a new clan was a personal choice that wouldn't affect his clan regarding the current Clan League but now, his decision can hurt Juggernauts a lot because they will have to replace him, a good player, probably by someone lesser good than him...So Irgeur has to wait until CL9 is totally done before going to Blizt/Outlaws or whatever new clan he chooses to not put Juggernauts in trouble for CL9...

This rule will force Irgeur to stay in Juggernauts for the duration of Clan League 9 to not look like a douche to them but by doing so, he will probably hurt his personal skill development by staying in a clan where he feels he can't learn nothing new anymore...

This situation is avoided obviously by top clans that have "training clans" in the sense that they can let their prospect in the "training clan" for the duration of Clan League 9 and keep helping him to improve. When Clan League 9 is over, hop in man, come abord the top clan my friend!

The point of rule 1 is likely to prevent an alt from joining a clan at the beginning of the season then switching back to their original clan. While I get that should be prevented, I think that rule 1 causes more problems then it solves. It prevents people from playing in CL that leave a clan for any reason, even if they aren't an alt. It is creating collateral damage and is unfair to a lot of players. If the problem is alts, then I think other methods can be applied to combats alts to this rule. That is why this rule should be retracted.

Deadman, are you trying to fizzer us? ;)
Dont make decisions at 4 in the morning!

The point of rule 1 is likely to prevent an alt from joining a clan at the beginning of the season then switching back to their original clan. While I get that should be prevented, I think that rule 1 causes more problems then it solves. It prevents people from playing in CL that leave a clan for any reason, even if they aren't an alt. It is creating collateral damage and is unfair to a lot of players.

+1

Clan splits would be made essentially impossible.

So the intent is to close loopholes regarding alts and moving between clans?

I would impose something along these lines:

• stop worrying about alts and mains
  
• a player can only play for one clan
  
• accounts controlled by a player in a clan that is participating in CL but that he is not playing in CL for have to be declared
  
• keep the 2 seasons no switching back rule

Alts are essentially a tool to be able to participate in different communities for most players. Although they have other good uses and many bad uses.
A clan sholdnt suffer from players leaving too much. I think letting them finish a season although they switched clans does no harm.

Edited 1/13/2017 07:40:45

2. A player must play on their main account and not place an alt in another clan to sidestep these rules. A main account is defined as the account which has earned the most points earned in the last 30 days.

Wait wait... so this means that my main account is actually in waco inc. and I can't play for CORP? Because Dexterous Strategist has 40k more points in last 30 days! W O W good new rules.