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Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-10 02:38:54


Electric_Kitten
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Edited 2/10/2017 02:44:09
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-11 01:09:25


Apollo
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UPDATE #2 - SATURDAY 11TH FEBRUARY

All the tournaments have now started!

First blood has also already been drawn! Electric_Kitten (101st) has gotten booted twice on 1v1 Guiroma against DWF and HAWKS! This is quite a blow for the 101st team especially since this happened so early in the tournament!


HAWKS -
 1v1:  3	    -       2v2: 0      -      3v3: 0            -         Max Points: 90                -        Win Rate %:  100.00%

DWF -
 1v1:  3	    -       2v2: 0      -      3v3: 0            -         Max Points: 90                -        Win Rate %:  100.00%

TJC -
 1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 90               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%

Statisticians -
1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 90               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%

Apprentice -
1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 90               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%

101st -
1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 84               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%


Or if you want a closer look you can look at this screens<span class='burning'>hot</span>: http://imgur.com/uvELaQR

HAWKS and DWF now have the early lead in the CL9 Q3! 101st are going to have to recover from these boots though, but we can't count them out yet! They have great skill and may pull a comeback in the rest of the CL!

cheers,
Apollo

Edited 2/11/2017 01:40:58
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-11 01:35:40


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Inlined Apollo's link
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-11 18:45:06


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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How often is the sheet actualizing itself?
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-11 19:41:38


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The sheet updates every 2-3 hours.

Edited 2/11/2017 20:00:12
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-12 01:17:03


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Okay.

Apollo can you please put this link to your initial post please:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P43KefXKdljuE2F8ZHSIQUrh9PHJ5co3oteiZ6E_8FA/edit#gid=1570514738


It is the Spreadsheet link where you can filter.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-12 01:59:43


Apollo
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Thank you! I have updated the original post!
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-12 11:24:25


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Ahm... MotD? Are there horseraces for the qualifiers?
I only can see some for A,B,C, D1 and D2, not for Q1,2,3

Edited 2/12/2017 11:24:38
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-12 22:23:23


Great Expanse 
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I was short on time so I didn't make them for the Qualifiers but they can be added. There were some things I wanted to discuss about the Summary page with MotD and Beren before I started making changes as they are running this league after all.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-13 01:38:31


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Predictions based on 86 respondents:

                 1    2    3    4    5    6 mean   sd        
101st         25.6 29.1 23.3 15.1  4.7  2.3 2.51 1.28
Apprentice    32.6 23.3 22.1  8.1  2.3 11.6 2.59 1.62
Statisticians 24.4 22.1 23.3 20.9  7.0  2.3 2.71 1.35
TJC           15.1 14.0 12.8 20.9 30.2  7.0 3.58 1.58
DWF            3.5  9.3  8.1 27.9 37.2 14.0 4.28 1.28
Hawks          1.2  3.5  9.3  7.0 17.4 61.6 5.21 1.24

How do we start here? Clans are ranked by mean, but immediately at the start, it's obvious that the differences are small. In fact, there is no significant difference between the top 3 clans here. Even more: 4 clans got at least 10 first place votes here and each clan has at least 40% of the respondents placing them outside the top 2. Did we say brutal? Brutal.

101st ranks first so far, but we'll see if they can prove themselves. Their first rank is mainly thanks to few last place votes rather than a bunch of first places votes though and when it comes to getting into C, they get beaten by Apprentice by a single vote. About 55% ranks them in the top 2, but if they fail to make that, 38% of the respondents sees them finishing a respectable 3rd or 4th nevertheless. Most of this is actually pretty similar to the prediction of their parent clan, Lynx.

Apprentice ranks second while receiving both the most first place votes and the most top 2 (getting into C) votes. And, to keep the good news up, they even tie 101st in top 3 votes. Yet, 10 respondents see the clan finish last. Part of this may be caused by order (clans were in order of the google sheet in the poll, which put Apprentice last), but that probably doesn't explain everything. Even without those votes, there's still over 30% that sees this clan rank 3rd to 5th, a lot worst than their parent clan.

Statisticians are ranked third overall by virtue of basically getting 20% of the votes on positions 1 to 4 each with almost half of the respondents predicting them to reach C. As mentioned above, the difference between the top 3 are so small that they are not significant at the 5% level. Additionally, Statisticians shares the lowest number of last place votes, tied with 101st (2). (Both respondents answering this will be found and eliminated (both were anonymous, coincidence? ;-) )). That said, rumour has it that Math Wolf has been conducting and reporting analyses on predictions for Clan League for 4 hours now rather than taking his turns, giving him more stress and making it a lot more likely for Statisticians to lose their games. (Note: I ranked my own clan 3rd as well.)

TJC may be underrated with multiple alts in their mids, including nich and Pulsey (there, I said your name, I hope you feel special now). Some people may not be aware of this, as was also clear for 7th Heaven in one of the other qualifiers, leading to the large number of 5th place votes. Nevertheless, almost 30% predicts them to make it to C, adding to the reputation that in this qualifier, everything might be possible.

DWF is almost by default condemned to finish 5th in predictions like this, which is also the rank that most in the panel gave them. With so many good clans to choose from, only about 13% of the respondents believed DWF could make it to C with only 8% extra seeing a top 3 as possible. Thanks to the consensus 5th (and 4th) place votes, they tied 101st for the one but lowest variation in this division.

Just like DWF, Hawks is assumingly a victim of the reputation of the other clans rather than its own. They are the only clan with more than 40% of votes in a single rank, getting a majority of last place votes as a result. And even among those not putting Hawks last, there is very limited hope for them of reaching C according to our panel, with a single person believing they can win the group and 3 more thinking a second place is possible. Luckily (well, not for us, but trying to be objective here), the real results do not seem to match the predictions for this clan so far, but it's still early.

Please see https://www.warlight.net/Forum/243545-cl-predictions-spreadsheet?Offset=79 for full methodology and other divisions.

Edited 2/13/2017 16:42:03
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-13 12:50:30


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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the real results do not seem to match the predictions for this clan so far


:)
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-13 15:11:41


Howling Mad
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um.... yeah I want a list with everyones name who predicted us last XD
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-13 15:30:19


Illyasviel
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calm down yall, we'll see at the end of season where each clan'll be
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-14 12:20:20


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UPDATE #3 - TUESDAY 14 FEBRUARY

More Games have finished!

In 1v1 Guiroma Apprentice have gone 2-0! However in 1v1 Strat ME it is Staticians who loose to HAWKS however defeat 101st. HAWKS are off to a great start! Furthermore TJC gets their first points on the board defeating DWF in volcano island! HAWKS and Apprentice start off with some victories in 2v2 Guiroma!

Clan	      1v1    2v2  3v3	MP	TP	% Points       GP	GR	W	L	Win Rate

Apprentice	6    4    0	90	10	100.00%	       3	22	3	0	100.00%
TJC	        3    0	  0	90	3	100.00%	       1	24	1	0	100.00%
HAWKS	        6    4	  0	87	10	76.92%	       4	21	3	1	75.00%
Statisticians	3    0	  0	84	3	33.33%	       3	22	1	2	33.33%
DWF	        3    0	  0	83	3	30.00%	       3	22	1	2	33.33%
101st	        0    0	  0	77	0	0.00%	       4	21	0	4	0.00%




Q3 is of to an amazing start! We will be following this division closely!




Legend

1v1 - Points from 1v1
2v2 - Points from 2v2
3v3 - Points from 3v3
MP - Max points
TP - Total Points
%Points - Points Contested

Edited 2/14/2017 22:57:25
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-14 13:43:10


Min34 
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Inline of how it looks on the CL doc atm:

Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-14 17:51:10


Great Expanse 
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And now with pretty horse race graphs too! XD
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-17 16:52:20


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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:/ Feeling sry for 101st

Ik its Not all lost yet. But that are already 12 of 90 given away by boots.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-18 08:18:35


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RL is hitting us hard this season.

Edited 2/18/2017 08:20:44
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-18 09:39:29


Apollo
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UPDATE #4 - SATURDAY 18TH OF FEBRUARY

Clan	      1v1    2v2  3v3	MP	TP	% Points       GP	GR	W	L	Win Rate

Apprentice	9    4    0	90	13	100.00%	       4	21	4	0	100.00%
TJC	        6    0	  0	90	3	100.00%	       2	23	2	0	100.00%
HAWKS	        9    4	  0	81	13	59.09%	       7	18	4	3	57.14%
Statisticians	6    4	  0	84	10	62.50%	       5	20	3	2	60.00%
DWF	        3    0	  0	72	3	14.29%	       6	19	1	5	16.67%
101st	        3    4	  0	71	7	26.92%	       8	17	2	6	25.00%





The race for first place is very tight! Many clans have the opportunity of taking that #1 spot. DWF surprisingly is being left behind by their competitors! They will need a real confidence boost! HAWKS who many predicted to come last are doing surprisingly well! 101st still got affected badly by boots but they have not finished fighting yet!

Cheers,
Apollo
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2017-02-18 09:52:48


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What is the reasoning behind switching the order of HAWKS and Statisticians compared to the spreadsheet?

@ Howling Mad: Serious answer: I'm not giving out such list to ensure the anonymity of respondents. It was explicitly stated at the start of the document that this would not be given out, so it would be unethical if I changed my mind afterwards.
Less serious answer: the very first respondent to fill in the survey, even before the link was distributed, also did so. I won't give his name either, but he was non-anonymous and a clan leader of a clan in this qualifier.
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