Thank you for the update, Min! I'm loving these smaller updates at a quicker pace seeing the Top 3 is becoming very close.

Will we have an analysis by tourneys at some point ? Here are some numbers for now :

Deadman's ROR 3v3 :

1 - SN 4-0
2 - MH 4-1
3 - VS 3-1
4 - WG 2-2
5 - BIA 2-4
6 - VIW 1-4
7 - GG 0-4

Europe 3v3 :

1 - VS 5-0
2 - GG 4-1
3 - SN 3-1
4 - MH 3-2
5 - WG 2-4
6 - BIA 1-5
7 - VIW 0-5

China 2v2 :

1 - BIA 5-0
2 - MH 4-1
3 - VIW 3-2
4 - GG 1-1
5 - VS 3-3
6 - WG 1-4
7 - SN 0-6

Final Earth 2v2 :

1 - GG 6-0
2 - SN 4-1
3 - VS 4-2
4 - MH 3-3
5 - WG 2-3
6 - BIA 1-5
7 - VIW 0-6

Guiroma 2v2 :

1 - GG 5-0
2 - BIA 3-2
3 - VS 2-2
4 - WG 3-3
5 - MH 2-3
5 - VIW 2-3
7 - SN 1-5

Elitist Africa 1v1 :

1 - MH 4-0
2 - GG 3-1
3 - SN 2-1
4 - VS 1-1
5 - BIA 1-2
6 - WG 0-2
7 - VIW 0-4

Guiroma 1v1 :

1 - VS 5-1
1 - WG 5-1
3 - GG 3-2
3 - MH 3-2
5 - VIW 2-4
6 - SN 1-5
6 - BIA 1-5

Old Strat ME 1v1 :

1 - WG 4-0
2 - VS 2-0
3 - GG 2-1
3 - MH 2-1
5 - SN 2-3
6 - BIA 1-4
7 - VIW 0-4

Phobia 1v1 :

1 - GG 5-1
2 - MH 4-2
2 - WG 4-2
4 - VS 3-3
5 - VIW 2-3
6 - BIA 1-4
7 - SN 1-5

Strat Greece 1v1 :

1 - VS 4-1
2 - GG 4-2
3 - MH 3-2
3 - SN 3-2
5 - WG 1-1
6 - BIA 2-4
7 - VIW 0-5

Volcano Island 1v1 :

1 - MH 6-0
2 - GG 3-1
3 - WG 3-2
3 - BIA 2-3
5 - VS 2-4
5 - VIW 2-4
7 - SN 1-5

Now what do we learn from this ?

#1 - GG (36-14, 72%) :

They are
- killing it on Final Earth (1), Guiroma 2v2 (1), Phobia (1)
- doing good on Europe (2), Elitist Africa (2), Strat Greece (2), Volcano (2)
- so so on Guiroma 1v1 (3), Old Strat ME (3)
- terrible on China (4), Deadmans ROR (7)

This team won 3 templates, with 5 spots taken by 5 different players ! That's impressive. Not surprising they are currently sitting on the top spot of the division.
A quick look at stats tells us player with the worst record seems to be Orascio (0-4 on Deadmans), while KO and Mifran seem to be leading their clan in terms of win rate.
So GG may benefit next season from either training more or replacing Orascio, or maybe simply changing the whole team on Deadmans next season, as Orascio may just be guided by more experienced teammates, so responsibility is difficult to credit without insider intel.

#2 - MH (38-17, 69%) :

They are
- killing it on Deadmans (2), China (2), Elitist Africa (1), Phobia (2), Volcano Island (1)
- doing good on Guiroma 1v1 (3), Old Strat ME (3), Strat Greece (3)
- so so on Europe (4), Final Earth (4)
- terrible on Guiroma 2v2 (5)

Stats don't lie, Hobo and Cluster are clutch players of the squad, without any losses (losses on Phobia are boots from previous player).
On the other hand, 90 and Emu seem the most in difficulty so far, struggling in 2 tourneys each, even though both doing good in their third tourney.
Interestingly they are both playing team games, with teammates doing ok elsewhere, and both closing the worst performance of the clan when playing together (Guiroma 2v2). This may show some lack of experience of the template, rather than practice at this level, considering their proven track records on ladders.

#3 - VS (34-18, 65%) :

They are
- killing it on Europe (1), Guiroma 1v1 (1), Old Strat ME (2), Strat Greece (1)
- doing good on Deadmans (3), Final Earth (3), Guiroma 2v2 (3)
- so so on Elitist Africa (4), Phobia (4)
- terrible on China (5), Volcano Island (5)

VS benefit from performance from their stars, INSIDE (10-1 on Europe and Guiroma 1v1), Glamourous (4-1 on Strat Greece) both topping the division in their tourneys, and Rocky (6-2) on Old Strat ME and Final Earth.
On the other hand, Mayor Sonnen seems to be the weakest link, with a 5th place on his 1v1 (Volcano) and a 3rd place in a tourney played with INSIDE (Guiroma 2v2) ; Demhunt likewise, as he's doing 5th in his only template (China), while his teammate Tobe performs in his other template (Europe) - of course those are quick analysis, that could be wrong.

#4 - WG (27-24, 53%) :

#5 - SN (22-34, 29%) :

They are
- killing it on Deadmans ROR (1) and Final Earth (2)
- doing good on Europe (3) and Elitist Africa (3)
- so so on Strat Greece (4)
- and terrible on the rest : China (7), Guiroma 2v2 (7), Guiroma 1v1 (6), Old Strat ME (5), Phobia (7), Volcano Island (7).

SNinja either lacks of quality in its roster to compete well in Div. B, or of knowledge of some templates. We can assume their squad are active strategic players, and that they practiced templates beforehand. So probably problem is 1st option.

And indeed, on an individual level, Rakleader took part in 8 of the clan's 22 wins so far. Basically without him, their win rate falls to 29%.
On the other hand, Tulan (China 2v2, Guiroma 2v2 and Volcano Island 1v1) took part in 18 games, for 2 wins. So yeah, 16 of the clan's 34 losses occurred when Tulan played. Not taking his games into account, win rate would move up to 53%. Is there a signal here ? Something that is tried to be said ? Well, maybe Tulan needs more practice before playing in Div B again.

#6 - BIA (20-38, 34%) :

#7 - VIW (12-44, 21%) :

That's it for now. If someone wants to finish feel free. It took me 3 RT games in a row to write this so taking a break now ;).

Edited 5/13/2017 23:21:05

Guiroma 2vs2

Bia and Viw 3.3. Our best result. Given the shit my team made in 3vs3 europe, Verzus can be our best player

Will we have an analysis by tourneys at some point ?

I wanted to give an analysis on a tournament when it ended. And an overall big analysis once the group has ended

@Mike
Guiroma 2v2 was Pabse and Sonnen, I only jumped in for the last game.

@Min, looking forward to tournament analyses =)

And I am not even in the top 5 of the clan, so definately not a star

Lol that the dumbest analysis ever. Only reason orascio is 0-4 is because his teammates didnt join the games in time. Maybe check the games before you can actually say something useful about peoples performances

Like I said the analysis was full of quick assumptions and looks at numbers. Doesn't matter if you don't like it, at least tourneys wins/losses are correct and analysis is correct for some clans, that's all I wanted and I thought posting it here was a good place to find it later if I wanted to :p

Good analysis Mike but like Ollie said, numbers aren't always informing regarding the performance of the players. Even in a clean loss (without boots), there are also other factors to consider when judging a win or a loss (cumulative luck if applicable, lucky/unlucky regarding the picks at the start, etc.). It is also harder to judge in my opinion in team games considering the praises or the blame can be spread across teammates and sometimes good players can play bad with some other good players when the communication or the chemistry between players is bad.

Edited 5/14/2017 16:37:29

Cool updates Min :)
And yes-looking forward for your analysis of the tournaments:if possible add a boot/non-join loss/win points analysis-which Hades did some time ago for Div A.

@ Ben (and Ollie) I never took this analysis so seriously, it was just an add on to Min's already awesome updates from a different point of view.

When you talk about "blames" to players, this is not the way i see it and I would like to apology to them if I offended them as my point was a hint to clans on what they could improve for next season, a bit like sport analysts do on live TV if you like.
I would never say this player is not good whatsoever, that would be totally irrelevant, especially coming from me who would lose against any of them.
I just felt interesting to see and point where each clans did very well or under performed particularly, and did name players involved, but like you explained better than me Ben, as for me this was implicit but you're right to mention it, reasons can be numerous (chemistry in team games, feel to the template, practice of the template, quality of opponent, mood / shape of the moment for the player, boots and substitutions that I didnt investigate at all, and so on).

So tl dr, let's just say this is not supposed to be taken seriously (that's why it was done in like only 1hr), let's wait for Min's if he still plans to do it :-), whom I can wish all the best in advance considering the time and effort I've put in it which is nothing compare to a full analysis, and bad comments you take if your analysis doesn't fit with the audience feelings.
Now just tell me if I should as well just delete it :-/

Edited 5/14/2017 18:18:50

I would never say this player is not good whatsoever

Maybe its just me but seems thats exactly what you just implied about Orascio. None of the auto-losses were his fault so its just bad luck for him.

A quick look at stats tells us player with the worst record seems to be Orascio (0-4 on Deadmans)

So GG may benefit next season from either training more or replacing Orascio

Its nice if people take time to make analysis but if you are going to name specific people who 'hurted' their clans chances then at least check if those people were actually responsible for the damage done. Otherwise don't name specific people and just say the team has not performed well (which is without any doubt true)

Edited 5/14/2017 18:52:02

I wanted to write an update this evening, but Krunx took all my time away! Blame him!

Anyways, update will come tomorrow!

But orascio is clearly the worst player in div B. He didn't even play a single game!

Ollie I dont know Orascio, I didn't even review his games or gameplay, I would never say that, as well as I would never say that about my clanmates who are amazing players even though they may have struggled on a specific template. I agree with you confusion stands though so again apologies to players involved as this was clearly not the point :-/

Basically idea to name players came from analysing SNinja performance which I started with, where contrast exists between the players named and I felt the clan suffered from such choice, while this does not necessarily mean anything about actual level of players involved.

Mike: thank you for taking the time to add some colour to the division. Min does an awesome job, but it's always good to hear from others. I appreciated it and yes I do agree with others that naming weak or strong players might not have been the best path.

That being said, everyone please chill out a bit. I am CERTAIN that there was no ill will meant by Mike and his intentions were pure. He took some time to do some analysis and I for one appreciated it even if I didn't agree with everything he said. That is the nature of colour commentary and opinions, you are allowed to be "wrong".

I hope this backlash doesn't prevent others from stepping up and providing some much needed commentary on the division.

In short: good job Mike, thanks for doing it, and hopefully you will take feedback into account for next time.

Oh and one more thing Mike: MHunters are going down!! Man this is a tight race for promotion.

Mike: problem here is because you named Orascio specifically : A quick look at stats tells us player with the worst record seems to be Orascio (0-4 on Deadmans)

You probably got his name from the line-up, so you could have checked the games(at-least substitution). Seems like they had a player who went inactive(real life probs??) and so they had boot/non-join losses.

For Promotion, MH have to win all remaining games-which is kind of hard when VS(2 games with MH) and GG(1 game with MH) are also competing for promotion. On other hand, GG looks dominating and VS is bit comfortable than MH. Other four clans may be out of promotion race, but they still can influence the promotion-if they win games with these 3 clans.

recheck your calculations my dear Watson :p

90

Thank you Darren at least one person understood me :-) and yeah I did a "quick" and partial analysis only to give ideas, inspiring from what's done in division A, hoping more of this kind would come too (but it's a big job so no worries if nobody can, but if Min can't, I dont think he has exclusivity on update, anybody may help, that was the idea).

which calculations 90:why i wrote MH have to win all remaining games for promotion?

MH
-> has 1v1 Guiroma with GG.
-> has 3v3 EU and will have 1v1 strat me with SNinja.
-> has 3v3 Dror with VIW.
-> has 1v1 strat me and will have 1v1 AE with VS.
-> has 1v1 strat me, greece and AE with WG.

VS and GG have 3(2 ongoing+1 to be created)games where they play against each other. Even after losing 1 or 2 games, GG will be marching for promotion(strong), but for MH 1 loss will bring max points down and widen the gap between 2nd spot and them. I wish i could spend more time writing big analysis or bring out various possibilities(I am leaving it to MathWolf-if he is reading this :P ), but then it is good to win all remaining games and get max points.

Ofc, there is no guarantee that VS wins all their remaining games to surpass MH and get promoted, as the later part of Div.B shows that MH had a great comeback(remember some even teased that Norman settled for Div.B).