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Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-15 17:29:02


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lol I was just being pedantic - pedantically, MH can lose all their remaining games and there is still a nonzero probability of promotion. So the word "have to" is misleading. Of course it would be nice to not lose all games :p.

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Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-15 19:08:37


Math Wolf 
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Sorry to disappoint you Sherlock, but I currently cannot find the time to write out all 274877906944 remaining possibilities.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-16 17:59:08


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Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-17 19:22:57


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Update 17-05-2017

Everything went exactly like scheduled! I swear I planned for things to go this way!!




Finished games

In the past week 12 games finished.






Tournaments

Deadman's RoR
Emu Pub, Melethron and fifi (MH) defeated Donutz, Le Count H and Carlos Danger (VIW)
rakleader, Timtimie and <SNinja> KirbyBIGRIG (SNinja) defeated Piper, Febo and DrummingManiac (BIA)


Final Earth 2v2
rakleader and <SNinja> KirbyBIGRIG (SNinja) defeated ChrisCMU and Mirror (WG)


2v2 China
AI and 90\(ºº)/ (MH) defeated Ko and FlyingBender (GG)


2v2 GuiRoma
Mayor Sonnen and Private Pabse (VS) defeated Emu Pub and 90\(ºº)/ (MH)
verzus and Ilpeggiore (VIW) defeated DrummingManiac and Robert E Lee (BIA)


Strat Greece
Smileyleg (WG) defeated AI (MH)


Elitist Africa
Botanator (BIA) defeated vicnus (VS)
Jaymer (SNinja) defeated AWOL GIs AJ (VIW) after VIW got booted.


Phobia
Andersault (WG) defeated Acrid (SNinja)


Strat ME
rlhull6 (BIA) defeated MoOoOoOoO (VIW) after VIW got booted
Mike (GG) defeated Acrid (SNinja)




Finished Tournaments

Final Earth 2v2
The first tournament has finished! Final Earth was an exciting tournament with two amazing teams fighting for the top spot! This is how it ended:

1st: MIFRAN and EZPickens of GG with a record of 6-0
2nd: rakleader and <SNinja> KirbyBIGRIG of SNinja with a record of 5-1
3rd: vicnus and Rocky1 of VS with a record of 4-2
4th: AI and Emu Pub of MH with a record of 3-3
5th: ChrisCMU and Mirror of WG with a record of 2-4
6th: Bigby and [DragoN] SeruM of BIA with a record of 1-5
7th: AIRNewbie and MoOoOoOoO of VIW with a record of 0-6

Congratulations to MIFRAN and EZPickens for winning the tournament. Not only did they win, they actually sweeped the tourney! Very impressive! GG should be pleased with this result.

Good job to rakleader and Kirby for getting second. Its probably a much better result than what they expected. Their 5-1 record will be useful for SNinja to avoid relegation.

Both VS and MH did well, with the game between these two teams deciding who got 3rd and who 4th.

BIA unfortunatly dropped the ball on this one. Their only won game comes from VIW and its a bootwin. Not the result BIA was hoping for, nor the result that will help them avoid relegation.

VIW got plagued by non-joins. This didnt contribute to their record in a positive way. Their winless record is obviously not a good thing. Maybe they couldve gotten some points had they actually joined all their games. Better luck next time!




clans

GG
GG had a very calm week. They went 1-1 and now stand at 36-15. This still puts them in first place. They are also the clan that has the most games left to play! This means GG still can get a lot of points. Its looking good for them!

MH
HM follows GG's lead and also ends with an even score. They go 2-2 this week and now stand at 40-19. They have by far the most points, but also have the least amount of games remaining. Due to this, they are the first clan that can no longer finish outside of the top 3. But this, of course, isnt enough! They are still in a tight battle for the promotionspots!

VS
VS is still in third. They also have an even score as they went 1-1 the past week. Their total record now stands at 35-19. They are still very close to the promotionspots! Whilst the group is slowly getting to an end, it seems the competition continues fiercly!

WG
WG has a good week and goes 2-1. Their total record now is 28-25. This means that they are now mathematically no longer able to take first place. Nor are they able to relegate. Congrats to WG for avoiding relegation! Although looking at the top 3, it is very likely we will see WG in group B next season.

SNinja
SNinja tries to pull away from BIA. They go 3-2 this week. This puts them at 23-34 in total. They are no longer able to finish in the top 3. They havent avoided relegation yet though, so they need to keep on winning!

BIA
BIA needs to win as much as possible. Relegation is closing in on them! Their 2-2 result this week, whilst not bad, isnt what they hoped for. They now stand at 21-39. The best possible outcome for their season is 5th. All other places are already unreachable.

VIW LOCKED
VIW goes 1-3 to have the only negative record this week. This puts them at 13-45. They are no longer capable of finished anywhere but dead last! Poor VIW. Their final spot has been decided. Unfortunalty, we wont be seeing VIW in group B next season.




Summary Table



Horse Race Table
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-17 20:12:54


ViralGoat 
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alright, at least we're not last! Woo!
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-18 05:45:18

[V.I.W] recruiting time! Join us !
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At beginning of the season nobody , even of my clanmates, would believe I d contribute to more than 20% of our total wins. Wow !!!
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 10:20:54

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BUG/ERROR report

The bot made a weird mistake. By coincidence we found out the same game has been created (and played) twice. It happend on strat ME vs BIA.

First game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13456166
Second game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13455835

Both games created on the same day but 3 hours apart from each other. Seems the bot somehow didn't record the game had already been created and created it again. The game first created has been won by GG, the first one finished has been won by BIA. According to the spreadsheet the first finished game has been counted since we have received a loss.

Its difficult to argue if the first game created or the first game finished should be counted since both players played both games in all seriousness. Despite the no replacement game policy we think a 3th game is the only fair way to determine who should receive the win here.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 11:45:25


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why the fuck did the players join and play 2 games?? obviously the loss should count for both due to the stupidity!

if not the loss can count to both ofcourse the first created game should count. first finnished game is irrelevant cuz its easy to hold up a game. the seccond game shouldnt been created and therefore it should not be put to consideration!

Thats my opinion!
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 12:54:30

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I think the only fair thing to do here is to take 50 points off each team in order to set an example to others in the cl to report such things when they happen.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 13:06:23


Mike |GG| 
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Kezzo and hobo - are U guys serious or just trolling ?
We will play 3rd game coz that is fair thing to do.
Misstakes/bugs can happen. That is normal.
Case close.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 13:16:51


Φιλώτας 
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penalty of 50 pts to both clans
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 13:19:00


Kezzo
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im definetly not trolling.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 13:25:49


TBest 
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We will play 3rd game coz that is fair thing to do.

Does BIA have the same view? After all the 'No Replacement Rule' would indicate that no such game should be played. Just saying, don't take a 3rd game for granted. Ollie put it better (assuming we - for him meant GG- saying that they would support a 3rd game.)

Not really saying what is the right or wrong thing here. As Ollie already pointed out, there are several 'fair' ways of deciding the bug/error. Putting aside personal preferences, ultimately one needs a decision... and let's hope the result for this game will not impact P/R.


1. Do nothing (aka, the CloT Document is left unchanged, and BIA keeps the win)
2. First game created.
3. First game finished.
4. If both GG and BIA and CL managment agree, a 3rd game.
5. Play a lotto game. (Hey, both players won a game. So a 50% chance to win is fair)
6. Kezzo's option. Both player loses? (taking his word for not trolling)
7. Other solutions?

Main point is that what is 'fair' depends on your perspective. For example a 3rd game could be argued to be unfair, since GG has done better in Div B then BIA, thus GG would be more likely to win a replacement game. (eg. That option favors GG.)

For funsies I kinda like the 5th option. But really, I think this is best decided between CL management and the involved players + their clan representative.

Edited 5/21/2017 13:29:14
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 13:35:18


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Other potential options not mentioned is to award half points to both clans for the 1-1 split over the 2 games, or award full points to both since both technically did get a win.

Edited 5/21/2017 13:47:28
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 13:40:19


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We will play 3rd game coz that is fair thing to do.


I would change to...

I thought I could beat BIA 2 times so I could win 2 games for GG and earn 6 points instead of 3


Case closed.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 15:40:39

MIFRAN
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Hmmm or we just use the first game created which would be the obvious choice since the second game shouldnt have been made... therefore 3 points to GG.
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 15:45:34


Beep Beep I'm A Jeep 
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or we just trust the CLOT which is obviously smarter than all of us and gave 3 points to BIA. ;)

Edited 5/21/2017 15:45:48
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 15:50:15

MIFRAN
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shouldnt matter that much, we should still promote i guess ;)
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 16:05:46


Edge 
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Due to an obvious hack of the CLOT, both clans should be punished with relegation. :P
Clan League 9: Division B Official Thread: 2017-05-21 16:17:53


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