I’m thinking about that I would change the Tour Finals a bit.

I would start using wild cards.
Instead of the TOP16, only the TOP10 Tour Race player would qualify to the Tour Finals (with a likely 2500 points limit).

5 wild cards would go to the TOP5 players of MTL and I would decide on the last wild card.

I would determine the TOP5 MTL players based on the "First Rank on MTL (Streak)" (or (TotaL) ) leaderboard (http://md-ladder.cloudapp.net/leaderboard)

If one of the TOP5 MTL players would decline the wild card or would qualify by a TOP10 position of the Tour Race, then the wild card would be offered to the 6th best MTL player, etc.
If more than 10 MTL players (of current 15) on the First Rank list would decline the wild card (or would qualify by Tour Race) then the wild card would be offered to the 11th Tour Race player, etc.

I would offer the last wild card to an old legend (if I can convince her/him to return :) ) or to a young emerging hot player (or simple to the next best MTL player it the top all accepted the wild cards)

I would change the name of the event from AWP Tour Finals to AWP World Championship (the name of the title is already this)

Maybe I would change the current best of 3 first round format to best of 5 format too.

So these are my plans.
What do you think? What are your opinions, what are your suggestions?

So someone playing all AWP tournaments but finishing 11th will miss out completely for the championship in place of somebody else who need not have played a single AWP tournament all year? I am not a fan of this idea.

I do like the idea.

If this is a response to me potentially qualifying for the finals with only having participated in one tournament let me point out that I have no intentions to play the finals in case I happen to qualify. I don't wanna take away a spot from someone who's been playing dozens of tournaments trying to accumulate as many points as possible. After all I don't think I'll be able to qualify with 1500 points anyway.

Concerning your suggestion: I feel like that would be a major change to the event. It would increase quality of the AWP finals but it would also make it a different event. The tour finals should be reserved for the players of the AWP tour in my opinion. If you want to give out wild cards it should be very limited. Like maybe only one or two wildcards in case that players who qualified for the finals decide to drop out.

@89thlap
No, it's not because of your case at all, I've been thinking about this for a while.

@huddyj, 89thlap
As I mentioned, I would rename the event itself.
AWP World Championship would not be part of the Tour.
Although, most of the qualifiers would come from the Tour Race (minimum 10) currently.

So the wild card isn't a good word here, better qualifying slot.
So 10 qualifying slots from Tour Race (TOP10)
5 qualifying slots from MTL (TOP5 in the First Rank leaderboard)
And only one wild card, decided by me.

Okay, didn't know you were planning to make this a different event that is separated from the tour. In that case your suggestion is reasonable of course. It would certainly bring together two of the strongest competitions. However, depending on which MTL leaderboard you're going to look at, you might end up inviting the same players again and again without them needing to put in any effort at all. Like you said "First Rank Leaderboard", Rufus is leading by so much he could afford not playing MTL for a few years and he would still qualify for the AWP World Championchips. I wouldn't really consider that a valid qualification process. Unless I misunderstood which leaderboard you're having in mind here.

The fairest solution could be to have an MTL leaderboard that gives out points each day that a player is ranked on MTL. The higher you're ranked the more points you receive. Points will be accumulated for 365 days and deleted just before the AWP World Championship event starts. This would require some work to implement though. It was just a quick idea I had, since it seems difficult to find a method to select the best 5 MTL players throughout a year.

If you really want to include outside competitions towards the Finals I'd suggest getting rid of the "AWP" part in the title.

Although personally I'd just prefer a different system that doesnt include other competitions. I agree winning one big tournament shouldnt be enough to get into the top 16 and qualify for the finals. But I think there could be simpler solutions to help this (outside of the change in points for winning these events) such as a slight multiplier in points for every tournament you play in or a simple requirement to have played in "X amount of AWP tournaments" before you can participate in the Finals.

@ekstone
i m not a fan of your idea!! AWP is AWP and MTL is MTL

@ekstone i m also not a fan of this new idea.

I agree with 89th that the board you picked now isn't the one that should be used if you insist on combining the AWP with MTL; You picked a board that is about a streak, which means it takes at the very least 36 days to get in there, and that is if you can hold 1st for that long. In order for Rufus to be kicked out of there at least 5 other people would have to have a streak of 110+ days, that's realistically not going to happen in years and years, even if he doesn't play at all.

You'd have to set up a new sort of format, but this feels like a separate event at that point, so I'd also agree to get rid of AWP in the title, and do this separately from the tour finals, which I'd keep in place the way it is right now.

I do not like the idea Ekstone. The set-up right now is fine I think. Perhaps you can add an extra requirment for the tour finals. For example that a player need to have played in at least 3 master tournaments or 5 250 series, or must have won at least 25 games in the AWP tour.

I would start using wild cards.
Instead of the TOP16, only the TOP10 Tour Race player would qualify to the Tour Finals (with a likely 2500 points limit).

5 wild cards would go to the TOP5 players of MTL and I would decide on the last wild card.

Honestly Ekstone, I hate the idea. It's a Tour Finals for the best AWP players. Players 11-16 get rewarded for participating, and it gives a shot to upcoming ambitious players to qualify for the Tour Finals and test themselves against the best. No need to change this, it's great as it is.

Now, if you want a tournament that was about pitting the best against the best, legends against the top players today, and so on, there's lots of space for a new tournament designed to do this (one that's separate from the AWP Tour Finals). I think Pardon was thinking maybe of doing this for MTL champions, for example.

Edited 7/13/2020 12:18:34

I don’t like the idea either. You’ve put a lot of work into AWP and it can stand by itself.

There is room for improvement on how long the AWP finals take though. It’s been going on for over a year for 2019 finals and me and Rak have only completed 5 out of potentially 11 games. Against a slow player who takes three days for most turns it slightly spoils the event.

I have no idea how this can be fixed and maintain the high level competition :(

Thank you very much for your feedback!
And you convinced me, I’m not going to change the Tour Finals.
Except for one thing, I’m renaming the title from AWP World Champion to AWP Tour Champion.

And later, I’m going to start a new AWP project on the subject of the Warzone World Champion(s).

Anyway, I would like to clarify a misunderstanding.
Guys, AWP is not equal to the Tour!!!
AWP is more about quality ;) Quality of organizing competitions.
The Tour is just one of AWP’s products, ok, the only one right now, but that will change in the near future.
So please differentiate AWP from Tour ;)
(see Q0 in the FAQ)

Looking forward to your new project Ekstone! :)

Weekly Tour Race update - Week 29

• The TOP25 on the 2020 Tour Race based on results from the finished and ongoing events so far:
  
  
  
  
• You can find the full list here:
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS_HKhaAssYQlNxYFgaiGxpz9H_IVQbzfB5yX5ieeKQ_4zVwjJBXT6t9Y0p3HLFPO_K2CjC3mKTamiD/pubhtml
  
  
• Around 61 games have been finished since the last update, and so far a total of 1875/3918.
  (These are approximate numbers because I register new players from finished events only once a month and the winnings of these new players are not counted by automation until that)
  
  
• - On the podium, the situation was unchanged, but all three players continued to collect points and increase their advantage over the rest.
  - 89thlap won the second GS, and with that single result, he jumped to sixth place. But that doesn’t mean anything, because my assumption is that you need to get more than 2,000 points to qualify this year, so he won't be a participant with that one result alone. But hey, time to join more Tour event 89thlap! ;)
  Anyway, have you noticed that someONE! collects all the important titles (CL, MTL trophies, Tour Final champ, all GS wins, etc.) this year? :O :D
  - SoO continued to climb already in 7th place.
  - Welcome Master USA in the TOP25 (his clan mate, Master Bjarke out)
  
  
• Who will be the 16 fighters who will fight for the 2021 AWP Tour Champion title?! :)

Weekly Tour Race update - Week 30-31

I forgot to do this Weekly Tour Race update last week, so now two week progress in one post.

• The TOP25 on the 2020 Tour Race based on results from the finished and ongoing events so far:
  
  
  
  
• You can find the full list here:
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS_HKhaAssYQlNxYFgaiGxpz9H_IVQbzfB5yX5ieeKQ_4zVwjJBXT6t9Y0p3HLFPO_K2CjC3mKTamiD/pubhtml
  
  
• Around 156 games have been finished since the last update, and so far a total of 2031/3918.
  (These are approximate numbers because I register new players from finished events only once a month and the winnings of these new players are not counted by automation until that - exceptionally, I have now registered 8 players from the second GS)
  
  
• - 2020 is still a very stormy year on the Tour, the Tornado is unstoppable, he increased his lead with a Masters quarterfinals and a 250 Series win, congrats!
  - Rak and Guest podium position remains secure.
  - Hergul collected a 250 final again, so his results in the best six category are the best (but there is still room for improvement in major events ;) )
  - Jimmy rocketed from 14th to 6th place reaching a Masters semifinal and a 500 Series final, congrats!
  - Malakkan also came up to 7th place from 11th reaching a Masters semifinal, congrats!
  - The two GG comrades continue to retain their qualifying place, ADHDnI had better last two weeks now, reached a Masters quarter-final spot.
  - Wini clung to a qualifying position again with a couple of major event points.
  - Master Bjarke and Beren came back to the TOP25 (PJ and MGO out)
  
  
• Who will be the 16 fighters who will fight for the 2021 AWP Tour Champion title?! :)

Six finished events in July, congrats time!

192. AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Blitzkrieg Bork
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=33362
Congratulations to 89thlap for his first Tour event win!
With this, he improved his all-time Tour record to 13-2, nice!
(time to join more Tour event and try to reach the Tour Finals ;) )

Here are the TOP16:




189. AWP World Tour - 500 Series - Poland
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=33027
Congratulations to ADHDnI for his first Tour event win!
After ten finals (5 QF, 4 SF and 1 F) he finally won a title, congrats!

Here are the TOP16:




198. AWP World Tour - 500 Series - Elitist Africa NLC
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=34417
Congratulations to malakkan for his 8th (!!!) Tour event win!
Now time to win a major event ;)

Here are the TOP16:




186. AWP World Tour - 250 Series - Unicorn Island
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=32743
Congratulations to tornado for his 3rd (!) Tour event win!
Only a Masters title missing now ;)

Here are the TOP16:




191. AWP World Tour - 250 Series - Laketown
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=33237
Congratulations to Octane for his 4th (!) Tour event win!

Here are the TOP16:




195. AWP World Tour - 250 Series - Strat. Yin'angzhou
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=33854
Congratulations to DrApe for his first Tour event win!

Here are the TOP16:

Monthly Official Tour Update - 07/2020

• The TOP10 on the Tour
  
  
  
• The TOP16 on the Tour Race 2020
  
  
  
• The full Rankings tables (more sheets included)
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRFGGrPXjgmiJMJfdzll6gMe_uBn6nYI6Gk607VXtKbsAGI2GBhkGbGlBM2ICAKEc-KNnubIbFvPtvx/pubhtml

• The Tour Records
  
  • Most AWP Tour Champion title
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=1051980994
    
  • Most Regular Season win
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=1051980994
    
  • Most Tournament Wins by Category
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=23309207
    
  • Most Tournament Wins
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=1875883168
    
  • Most Finals
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=1699316073
    
  • Best Win%
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=1219041667
    
  • Most Wins
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=557540121
    
  • Most Played Tourneys
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS89sGasJqkAPEc4nHuk7uslgjMBS16_8okg8ME0fHg25e1NPJ_knZQr5NeKcb8wKlfxirQ0cn2-2c2/pub?gid=1716949278

Edited 8/2/2020 04:16:08

Weekly Tour Race update - Week 32

• The TOP25 on the 2020 Tour Race based on results from the finished and ongoing events so far:
  
  
  
  
• You can find the full list here:
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS_HKhaAssYQlNxYFgaiGxpz9H_IVQbzfB5yX5ieeKQ_4zVwjJBXT6t9Y0p3HLFPO_K2CjC3mKTamiD/pubhtml
  
  
• Around 96 games have been finished since the last update, and so far a total of 2127/3918.
  (These are approximate numbers because I register new players from finished events only once a month and the winnings of these new players are not counted by automation until that)
  
  
• - There is no change in the TOP5 ranking.
  - Both Malakkan and SoO overtook Jimmy, scoring only 45-45 points, which shows that the field is very tight!
  - ADHDnI arrived to the TOP10 (to 9th from 12th), winning a 500 Series event, congrats!
  - Min34 entered the TOP16 (from 17th place to 15th) getting only a 35 points, it seems we will have very tight qualification battle!
  So every point is important! ;)
  - No new face in the TOP25 (just a few more place swaps)
  
  
• Who will be the 16 fighters who will fight for the 2021 AWP Tour Champion title?! :)