Agreed with MT, voting anonymously is better so that people can't influence each other and last one to vote actually have the impression that his vote is worth something.

I think I dont understand:

"Every player has to register an account to be used in the Clan League(clans can do it on players' behalf as well). This account can't be changed in subsequent seasons unless they ask the organizers specifically (We will only allow changes if it doesn't appear that they are doing this just to circumvent this rule)."

Circumvent which rule?

"If a player(who is in P tournaments) transfers from clan X to Y in the mid-season window, they can only represent clan Y in (3-P) tournaments."

What "P" and "3-P"? Is it possible that the same player after mid-season transfer can play for other clan in the same CL season and even the same CL division? Does the player continue his previous games for old clan while starting new for new clan?

"Every player has to register an account to be used in the Clan League(clans can do it on players' behalf as well). This account can't be changed in subsequent seasons unless they ask the organizers specifically (We will only allow changes if it doesn't appear that they are doing this just to circumvent this rule)."

- This wont stop people jumping around clans (i.e. in the Blitz case, relegating and staying in
the division with another clan). Anyone can leave a clan at any point to go play for another clan for Clan league though I guess forcing them to stay in that clan will stop people just chucking in alts into lower divisions.

- I do hope however that this wont be deliberately used to stop players who have moved on from lower ranked clans from competing with an alt left in that clan as their registered account, without later penalising them by not allowing them to switch their registered account to their main account if they no longer want to represent their old clan. What would the stance be on that ??

^This would be especially bad for people that have outgrown their clan but are not yet at the standard needed to compete in their new clan. This rule could be used badly to stop such people competing in clan league at all.

Edited 7/13/2017 13:31:04

Quite an interesting read in the google document, seems all reasonable.

As for the rule "Every player has to register [...]" the problem I see is that some players are in multiple clans and kinda get "automatically" added to the lineup. This happened me this season with an M'Hunters player whom I used to fill our lineup to the maximum amount and after looking at the spreadsheet I found that he was in 3 different clan lineups with some of his alts. As far as I know he didn't play a single game for any clan though, just like me the other clan managers just added him to the lineup.

@Norman, that shouldn't have been allowed. Could you PM me and Master of the Dead more details about this?

^It kinda don't matter whether it is allowed or not. When adding players from a clan you fill up the rosters, right? So how can you prevent it (hint: you can't)

Quite a lot of players have arguably no clear main account, so neither clan is adding alts or anything. As long as a player don't play for multiple clans then there is no issue?

PS: Pretty sure this has been the case in both this and past CL's (a player being on multiple roters, while not playing for more than one clan). It is just more visible now, since the roster is bigger, so a lot of players gets added before a player says yes or no to playing.

If it's not allowed, then who is breaking the rule?

The clan(s) who didn't know about the other clans?
The player who didn't know they where on multiple rosters?

It's unfortunate, but I don't see a way of preventing it in the roster stage. So you have to stop it at the lineup, no? The alt/main questions is really hard to control as most players won't know everybody's alts.


EDIT: Kinda realted, but

A player has to be in the clan whenever a game is assigned. If you aren't in the clan it's a loss. Clan managers will need to substitute players who have left their clan(if games haven't been allocated) (Needs work)*

might be amended to 'An Account' ? or maybe... The player's account must be in the clan... I think the intention in that rule is clear. Just that the language could be more precise to avoid an potential loophole discussion of placing an alt in the clan, while leaving with the CL account.

Edited 7/13/2017 18:54:19

Nice sheet. Read through it all.

About the scoring updates, did you guys talk about a solution there? Is the google sheet method slow? The data could easily be moved to a PostgreSQL database, but then you would need a mechanism for rendering that data to the WL community. Like an SSRS website or something.

We'll address all questions/concerns on a live stream(hopefully this weekend, time to be announced soon).

About the scoring updates, did you guys talk about a solution there? Is the google sheet method slow? The data could easily be moved to a PostgreSQL database, but then you would need a mechanism for rendering that data to the WL community. Like an SSRS website or something.

Yeah. We're making progress to improve that situation. I'm not sure if the changes will be delivered on time for CL10 though, since we're racing against the clock :(

OK, hit me up if there is something I could help with.

We're doing a live stream this Saturday to go over the changes @ https://goo.gl/AaXyxF.

We will answer all questions posted on this thread since our announcement regarding the changes for CL10. If you cannot make it to the live stream, be sure to post your questions on this thread.

Will/ Can the stream be saved somewhere?

#CL10 hyped already!!!

We're streaming to talk about our responses to this thread: https://www.twitch.tv/master_of_the_dead

Recorded Stream - https://youtu.be/8ShwqO_oxIY

Can you post a read-only version of your google sheet outlining your thought processes?

@Zack Fair, this is in MotD's post on the previous page:

For more detailed comments on issues not addressed on this post, please see - https://goo.gl/4C3oss