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Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 01:23:35


SuperGamerz
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That being said, it seems that I have made a few enemies, and I now hold stronger grudges. I am now more than ever, strongly against the use of alts. I feel they detract from communities and cause stronger communities to siphon off of the weak ones.



Bullshit. You telling me players like Tribalwars and Pardon detracted from the community? No, If it wasn't for players like that FCC would be dead already.

In my time, I saw 101st/lynx progressively encroach on FCC members, and especially by the end of my tenure, many players were either flipping their alts/mains between clans, or just leaving FCC altogether in favor of 101st.


Before you acted like an idiot and kicked out most FCCers, only two FCCers were ever approached to join 101st

-Me with an alt
-Drizzy (Octane) with an alt

I joined the 101st, because I had reached the cap of learning the FCC at that time could provide. I tried to go to many other clans, but they wanted my main, would you have been happier had I taken that option?
Drizzy joined with an alt for the same reason as me, we both intended to remain active and play clan league for the FCC.

-DemoZ was never approached by 101st, but instead approached Zero. He and Drizzy were willing to give you a chance to straighten out the clan but as it went on things got worse and worse.


I had have enough of it. Although I cannot say 101st effectively killed FCC, I would say it had a good part in accelerating its demise.


Bullshit again Aura. While I worked my ass off doing everything to build the strategic part of the clan, NO ONE once helped me these past few months. You on the other hand were constantly playing Runescape and rarely even contributed a conversation. Do I blame you for that? No. But for you to turn around and blame 101st for something you damn well contributed to is disconcerting to say the least. You could at least try to organize it in a way where someone could push towards taking your place. Not to mention the fact that I tried to make things easier on the council to take over as well warned ya'll that I planned to step down. Nothing at all was ever done.

The reason why 101st has been able to thrive so vibrantly in spite of this game in general being on the decline was because of the FCC. Now they will have to find somewhere else to find their players, because FCC likely won't ever be able to provide for them again, considering that the new focus of the clan will be solely community based (and hence not attracting those interested in strategically improving), and nothing else. Indeed, FCC became exactly what I was trying to avoid: A stepping stone, a "Pre" to another clan. We basically became 101st's weeder, and that wasn't what I intended.


This is absurd.
101st is doing well because they took 2 alts of FCC members??? This doesn't make any sense and instead contrasts why the 101st succeeds and the FCC failed. The council is completely active and never laying down on the job, as a result the members are active vibrant and willing to help in any way to grow the clan.

101st has 49 accounts
-Lynx and Masters alts (7)
-Old Guard (4)
-Former FCCers (5)
-Unrelated 101st mains (33)

Of the 5 former FCCers
-Me, Joined with alt, left FCC for reasons unrelated to the 101st
-Octane, Joined with alt, left FCC due to nothing being done to revitalize the clan
-DemoZ, Approached Zero, left FCC due to nothing being done to revitalize the clan
-Edogawa Conan, kicked from clan
-Mar3i, kicked from clan

Thus, I do hearby declare that I will be, for a very long time, perhaps forever, begrudged against 101st/lynx. Their part in FCC's demise isn't something I can easily forgive. I cannot say I will feel distaste towards individual players, however, just a general one toward that clan as a whole.


That's because you're being petty, this is more you're fault than anyone's
-Not once did you tell us you were losing interest in Warlight
-You made little to no changes to an inactive council
-You barely talked on the discord and thus seperated yourself from those outside the core.
-You kicked everyone not in the core out of the clan

For this reason I cannot represent FCC in CL anymore. I will surrender all my games, including the won ones, because I am obviously not wanted.

Edited 8/11/2017 04:43:06
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 01:35:07


Жұқтыру
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Oh no, a dying clan #1 that can't keep its own members' interest and loyalty whose members go to live and better clans. Must be the other clans' blame, amirite?
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 02:13:31


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I really wonder who does the recruitment for 101st in general. You guys must work tirelessly to get all those recruits with the amount I'm seeing. Numerous mails to players in big clans. Just fascinating how aggressive the 101st recruitment is.. Is it a strategy of "Hey lets recruit everybody we possibly can and lets hope that 1 or 2 will shine in the dark" or a find a diamond amongst a bunch of rocks as so to speak.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 02:25:03


Benoît
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Lol I was thinking the same exact thing Plat. 49 players is indeed a huge pool to choose some players from to graduate to Lynx maybe. I personally don't see how it is nice to be in a huge clan myself but I guess to each his own cup of tea.

Edited 8/11/2017 02:26:39
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 02:32:06


Aura Guardian 
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Oh no, a dying clan #1 that can't keep its own members' interest and loyalty whose members go to live and better clans. Must be the other clans' blame, amirite?


From my perspective, this clan wasnt dying until major community members starting multiclanning. Perhaps it was our fault that we couldent quite provide what we wanted to with our clan, but that was a result of myself/other leaders getting busy/losing motivation. FCC truly didn't start to fall until players started to multiclan. I thought just "main in FCC" was enough. But I sure guessed wrong. One day, I happenstanced upon a comment stating that cowboy became gamerz main, BEFORE he left council. It is an FCC requirement that your declared main be in FCC in council. This... hurt me. It told me he was no longer truly and fully invested in FCC. I don't know when it happened, but I felt backstabbed because of it. And then the gates opened. Octane went main to 101st, then demoz. Then I started getting notifications from other players that they were leaving. With gamerz leaving rather suddenly, it was the last straw.

What I basically saw was this: Once players started to realized that 101st had a better, more established system for strategical players, it was much more enticing to flip over than stay. Why? It takes less effort to join an already developed system than one that was a "work in progress", so to speak. I guess, therefore, it would be more appropriate to say that it is more the fault of the major community members/developers leaving FCC for 101st, than 101st/lynx itself for the demise of the FCC. Obviously, there still has to be a push from 101st to absorb members like this, but I think I really need to put the core of the blame on two pieces:

1. A council that wasn't committed
2. Players giving up and going for a stonger more established community.

My mistake for not thinking through this thoroughly enough. I hope this clears some of the issues up.

Edited 8/11/2017 02:35:17
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 02:33:12


Bonsai 
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Maybe 101st will become big and skilled and then leave to form their own clan.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 02:36:11


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And that training tho.. 49 members.. for 26 members of Lynx to teach... To make them graduate. I wonder if all those 101st players really do get that training.. Especially with the new recruits that's alot of workload for a game.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 02:47:14


Hypoxia
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Better I keep my mouth shut ^^

Edited 8/11/2017 02:55:43
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 03:06:35


SuperGamerz
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rom my perspective, this clan wasnt dying until major community members starting multiclanning. Perhaps it was our fault that we couldent quite provide what we wanted to with our clan, but that was a result of myself/other leaders getting busy/losing motivation. FCC truly didn't start to fall until players started to multiclan. I thought just "main in FCC" was enough. But I sure guessed wrong. One day, I happenstanced upon a comment stating that cowboy became gamerz main, BEFORE he left council. It is an FCC requirement that your declared main be in FCC in council. This... hurt me. It told me he was no longer truly and fully invested in FCC. I don't know when it happened, but I felt backstabbed because of it. And then the gates opened. Octane went main to 101st, then demoz. Then I started getting notifications from other players that they were leaving. With gamerz leaving rather suddenly, it was the last straw.

What I basically saw was this: Once players started to realized that 101st had a better, more established system for strategical players, it was much more enticing to flip over than stay. Why? It takes less effort to join an already developed system than one that was a "work in progress", so to speak. I guess, therefore, it would be more appropriate to say that it is more the fault of the major community members/developers leaving FCC for 101st, than 101st/lynx itself for the demise of the FCC. Obviously, there still has to be a push from 101st to absorb members like this, but I think I really need to put the core of the blame on two pieces:

1. A council that wasn't committed
2. Players giving up and going for a stonger more established community.

My mistake for not thinking through this thoroughly enough. I hope this clears some of the issues up.




*Edited my comment above as well*

Edited 8/11/2017 03:14:40
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 03:14:20


SuperGamerz
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I really wonder who does the recruitment for 101st in general. You guys must work tirelessly to get all those recruits with the amount I'm seeing. Numerous mails to players in big clans. Just fascinating how aggressive the 101st recruitment is.. Is it a strategy of "Hey lets recruit everybody we possibly can and lets hope that 1 or 2 will shine in the dark" or a find a diamond amongst a bunch of rocks as so to speak.


Lol I was thinking the same exact thing Plat. 49 players is indeed a huge pool to choose some players from to graduate to Lynx maybe. I personally don't see how it is nice to be in a huge clan myself but I guess to each his own cup of tea.


The council as a whole does the recruiting, it's very active and works very hard.

Maybe 101st will become big and skilled and then leave to form their own clan.


I know I shouldn't laugh, but that is kinda funny. Damn you.

And that training tho.. 49 members.. for 26 members of Lynx to teach... To make them graduate. I wonder if all those 101st players really do get that training.. Especially with the new recruits that's alot of workload for a game


That would actually be 34-37 members in training. And I can tell you first hand it works, every player I myself have seen come in has improved. Will all reach Lynx level? Probably not, but I can guarantee most in training will reach a level of player that you would go after plat. It's not just the 26 members of Lynx either. Upper level 101sters also train lower level 101sters. It's a big project, yes, but it works.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 03:18:39


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That would actually be 34-37 members in training. And I can tell you first hand it works, every player I myself have seen come in has improved. Will all reach Lynx level? Probably not, but I can guarantee most in training will reach a level of player that you would go after plat. It's not just the 26 members of Lynx either. Upper level 101sters also train lower level 101sters. It's a big project, yes, but it works.

And here all I do is post clickable drawings of like, Kate upton and shit.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 03:24:29


Electric_Kitten
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See but that's admirable too Bane. Someone's gotta do it
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 03:24:33


Dogberry
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I am genuinely happy to see that the Lynx/101st training project is now working again.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 03:26:58


Bonsai 
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They actually kicked it into high gear, a training clan for the training clan!
- downvoted post by Genghis
- downvoted post by AbsolutelyEthan
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 04:26:52


SuperGamerz
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One day, I happenstanced upon a comment stating that cowboy became gamerz main, BEFORE he left council. It is an FCC requirement that your declared main be in FCC in council. This... hurt me. It told me he was no longer truly and fully invested in FCC. I don't know when it happened, but I felt backstabbed because of it.


Maybe because I warned you I planned to leave the council. Maybe I was tired of no longer getting help. Sorry I cared about the FCC so much that I didn't want to leave until I knew the council was ready. Ultimately this has nothing to do with my experience in 101st. It has everything to do with my experience in the FCC, and these past two, maybe even three months, it was terrible.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 04:45:54

Penguin Unity
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Hell, I even offered to fill in for Cowboy as he was leaving but no that was not an option. I tried my hardest for FCC and was rewarded with its destruction.
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 04:50:37


SuperGamerz
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^No alt rule in the council. Alts are a detriment. Suuuure, and inactive mains are so much better?
Looking for a clan: 2017-08-11 05:31:59


TeamGuns
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Maybe 101st will become big and skilled and then leave to form their own clan.


The council as a whole does the recruiting, it's very active and works very hard.


Just got such a déjà-vu hahahahaha.

Either way, I have close to no doubt that 101st/Lynx recruitment is agressive and actively poaching, it was already like that in the past, wouldn't have changed much.

But again, it's not their fault that players leave to these clans, if you have a core of very active players that play in a community for a long time and know each other very well to the point that they become friends, no clan will be able to recruit them. Happy players don't leave your clan.

When we decided to leave 101st to form Outlaws, almost all of our players got invited to a massive chat game with 101st/Lynx to get persuaded (in a very unpleaseant chating) from leaving, a lot of us even got invited to Lynx itself.

Despite Outlaws not being an elite-tier clan at the time, actually it was more of a gamble new thing, all the core players moved on to it, with only two or three defections from players that weren't really as active/commited anyways.

At the end of the day, clans don't own players, if your clan failed it isn't 101st, Lynx, Masters or whoever's fault but from those who lead the clan in the first place.
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