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EUROPE: 2012-05-05 18:44:14


Moros 
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Idea: since you don't include Iceland in your Scandinavia bonus, extend the UK bonus to North Sea Islands, to include whole Ireland and Iceland.
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 18:45:41


BlueGalaxy
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In Ukraine:
Vinytsya - Vinnstia?
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:08:32


Major Risk 
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Yeah Moros but what to call it? I checked on wiki and it says North Islands are Norwiegen and Germany islands that range from there to East Scotland...?
I like your idea, and want to implement it but what to call it?

@Bluegalaxy thanks again!

[Map](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=13020).
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:14:52


BlueGalaxy
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I think Moreas mentioned something about the north sea islands - maybe call it *North Seas*?
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:15:06


BlueGalaxy
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*Moros
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:29:17


Ironheart
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part of france is in Iberia so southwestern france and southern france should be in Iberia.Kalingard should be in superbonus russia.Area A has 3 spots which is unfair to the rest that has 2.Also the superbonus should not be called superbonus _____ which seems long and pointless especially when writing to teammates
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:41:01


Moros 
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@Ironheart

I think you should first read the past few pages of discussion since most of your complaints are already explained.

@Major

I think North Sea Islands is fine. Or else Atlantic Islands?
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:51:22


BlueGalaxy
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@IronHeart-You could always write in abbreviated terms, when I play small earth for example, I would say N.A or S.A for North America and South America. I would use NW Russia SW Russia etc in Europe maps. You could just say Russia, Balkans, UK, Iberia etc?
You don't *have* to use the whole name, it's sorta like language; we abbreviate it to make it shorter but it means the same as the whole word
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:52:00


Major Risk 
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@BlueGalaxy and Moros [North Sea Islands](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea) ,they don't include iceland and Ireland, Also I think I like UK Superbonus as it is?
I have mixed thoughts on it as I like the UK (Including N Ireland) but it can be too small compared to Balkans, Russia and Scandinavia.

Update:Balkan superbonus now only includes the Dogbrogea part of Romania as I am following the Balkans Peninsula instead of the past post I did on this topic. This improves play-ability as there aren't 31 territories instead there are 24 in the bonus.

@Ironheart- Iberia only touches the very border of France so to include the whole of Southern France would be silly, especially when it would interrupt teams collectively owning both France Superbonus and Iberia.
Kaliningrad should technically be in Russia Superbonus but I am sacrificing political correctness for play-ability as you will see mentioned in previous posts. Area A is in the center, which means it has, if anything a disadvantage as will be attacked from all angles. About the Superbonus names, I disagree with you, 1)They will be all together when the game host wants to change the values of them, 2)Everyone won't get confused what the bonus is as it clearly says "Superbonus..." as just "Russia"could be anything
3)You won't have to type anything at all if you Cntrl+Click on the bonus box with the chat box open.
[Map](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=13020).
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 19:58:49


Major Risk 
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Update: Superbonus Central added on the [map](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=13020)!
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 20:07:18


BlueGalaxy
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I'm fine with that Major, just thinking of ideas lol; I can see what you are thinking with the UK bonus being too small. But other maps have extremely small superbonuses eg. compare the size of the Austria superbonus and the Ottoman Empire superbonus in the map Europe 1600AD.

Being small could also be a good thing too though! Some people prefer to go to small superbonuses first compared to the big ones; they are easier to get and would provide armies for them early on in the game. This could also create great competition and make this a favourite starting spot aswell . The competition would come from the cases where more than one person would distribute their starting countries to the UK, fighting it out to get the bonus.
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 20:07:59


Ironheart
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major add rivers and lakes to make the map look better and more different
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 20:17:47


Major Risk 
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Need help in creating a distribution mode for WWII, if you think you can help please go to this [thread](http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=3567)! Thanks in Advance!
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 22:28:33


Major Risk 
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Distribution modes are now done! :D [Map](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=13020)!
EUROPE: 2012-05-05 22:36:17


Moros 
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I don't think the corners distribution is fair for the ones starting in North-western Russia.
EUROPE: 2012-05-06 00:08:23


Major Risk 
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Moros wrote "I don't think the corners distribution is fair for the ones starting in North-western Russia"
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On the various AI Tests I did, the russian AI came out on top about 1/3 of the time. I know players are not AI's but NW Russia (Looks bad) but starting there actually gives you a lot of expansion as you have whole of russia and Finalnd,Baltic States, Norway ect (with the exception of South of SW Russia.


Update: The Map is now pending public! Anymore changes will be brought out in the first update if need be. First thanks to Troll for basis of map and to all, Moros, Rvw, Evreux, BlueGalaxy and Grezochoo. <--(Probably missed some)
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EUROPE: 2012-05-06 00:14:13


uga98
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Thank god im ready to play this map
EUROPE: 2012-05-06 00:45:29


Major Risk 
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Hmm...The map has been put back for various reasons, one of these is it's name, i'm not allowed all Capitals, so what would be a suitable name guys?
EUROPE: 2012-05-06 05:05:44


Guiguzi 
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Superbonus [Country Name/Region] --> just call them [Country Name/Region]? the fewer words, the better I think.

map name: Medium Europe? Europe Medium? Europe II? Europe 2.0? European Peninsula (to follow Fernand Braudel's description)? Europa (Spanish/German names, [also the name of the goddess for whom Europe is named](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28mythology%29))?

North Africa: I like that you added that to the map. How about making North Africa a small, inefficient bonus of 4-5 territories worth only 2? Having an alternative route between Italy and Spain could make the strategy more interesting. It could also be a way to further or more fully distinguish your map from Troll's.
EUROPE: 2012-05-06 05:09:58


Guiguzi 
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nobody else mentioned this yet either: the connecting line bewtween uppsala and s latvia isn't as clear as it could be. it touches vastra gotaland.
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