What I am asking myself now is: how can you all be that sure that he didn't?

His rating is a complete outlier data, I don't know how wonderful is he in game but with a rating like that in a temp like SE1W and so many accounts I don't get your thoughts at all. Do you think that we are all idiots except him?

I have a winrate of more than 91% on Aseridith Islands in QM for example. Players like Rufus or Beep Beep I'm A Jeep can have that on multiple templates. The key difference between us three and René or Ozijs is that neither of us has time or motivation to inflate our ratings in QM, as it's just not a skill, but an activity competition.

But SE1W is the most played temp of warzone, not a temp unown to most people. One player can find good opponents almost all the day there.

Dude why are you still accusing him even though you have no proof.

I bet all my coins that Ozijs will beat you 90% of the time if you play 10 games with him.

That's not true, Ercole. The average opponent on Aseridith Islands is considerably better than on any Small Earth template. That will be the case on any templates with more significant strategic component.

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Arrow, hadn't you ended the discussion?
I am accusing him of using more than an account in a 1v1 competition, it does not seem to me that anyone has denied that it was an unfair practice since it is.

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for example he can scout the opponents online.

This is the most ridiculous thing to say.... There are more than 1k SE QM games played per day(way more ofc.... I wouldnt be suprised if it would be 10x more). Are you suggesting that he is jobless enought to check who all from top 100 players are online every time he plays QM.

He has a 3rd profile (https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=66109403560) from where he actually played (he is inactive right now) and sometimes feeded his two top scorer accounts for SE1W on QM.

The 3rd profile also has a very good QM rating, so stop your false accusations

Ercole, you definitely need to stop making strange accusations without any proofs. You are literally insulting every top 50 player in Global QM leaderboards. All this people are “cheating” by winning most of their games, how dare they?!

You mentioned how hard it can be to reach high rating. Well, reaching 1000 points rating in any particular template is a decent achievement indeed. Can't say the same for 1000 in Global and not sure if you can fairly judge those who are high above this level. It doesn't matter if we are speaking about René with many thousands of games (try looking second place in global https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7117253396, but be careful, don't get a heart attack for such outrageous “cheating”) or Ozijs with much fewer ones — both ways need highest skill to maintain incredibly high win rate. 91 or higher, as Alexclusive mentioned here. If you think that it is impossible, then I wonder what could you possibly say about perfect 1vs1 ladder runs and people who keep setting new records there. Damned cheaters, aren't they?

Firstly, Quickmatch isnt a competition. Its just for fun casual rt/md games. You dont get a trophy if you are first in QM. If he did it in ladders(he did do it unknowingly for which he was punished), i would have supported you. But multi accounting in QM isnt a crime unless you dont use 2 accounts at the same time and are invited against your alt.

The rating of his 3rd profile is most probably his true rating in my opinion.

Yeah, kasse84 should be the top scorer of the leaderboard imo, since he is not "unbeatable" like the other guys.

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15461445

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lol. Why are you thinking so highly of yourself? I assure you that his true rating would be hundreads of points ahead of you. Stop being a jealous a**hole and accept the truth that he is better than you. FYI, you dont get a prize or anything(not even a trophy) if you are first in QM so just keep that in mind. Many good players dont even play QM so even if you are 1st in QM, that wouldnt mean that you are the GOAT of SE. That would just mean that you are a person who activily plays QM and wins more than 85% of his games.

Where do you draw the line as for the rating from which on you accuse the player of cheating by trying to get matchups against their alts? Like, take as granted that we ignore the completely illogical aspect that following this thought, he would be giving rating to two of his accounts, not one. I guess 70-80% of the top 100 players have at least one alt. Are they all cheaters or just a couple?

Simple question, Ercole. Had you ever faced Ozijs or any of his alts? If yes, then what is your personal score against him?

I can personally admit that sometimes I am scouting possible top opponents when playing my favourite templates, like MME Commanders. If any of those people are online, I am pressing Play more willingly, cause winning them is the only way for me to get more then 1 point per win, along with getting an actually good game. My guess, Ozijs can think in the same way towards you or any other decent rated person in SE. Is this forbidden?

I am just 1-0 Vs his 3rd

Link please.

@Ercole
What QM leaderboard are you referring to?

Regarding whether we can prove that he's not cheating - that's not how it works. You as the accuser have to prove that he is cheating, not simply accuse and have him (or someone else on his behalf) prove that he's not. Playing QM with an alt vs others isn't cheating. Gathering intel whether it be from communication with others, scouting using alts, etc, isn't cheating. Is your reason for suspicion simply that he has a high rating & a few alts that also play QM?

To be clear, I have no idea if he's playing QM games of main vs alts, but in lieu of evidence showing that it's actually happening, I'm certainly not going to accuse him of it. If you have no evidence yourself, why even pursue this idea?

sorry I was wrong, I played only with his 5th account (how many damned accounts does he have?) https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=17139346510

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=27011650
This one seems active so I mailed him too.

@krinid I am talking of the Quickmatch's SE1W leaderboard

I repeat myself again: the simple fact that he uses so many smurfs is an issue by itself, no matter if he uses them even to try to smash our ratings or to cheat in other ways like scouting or direct feeding to help his main.

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OHHH my bad, I didn't know there was one! But now that you mention it, I went looking for it and found it. lol

Is there a better interface for it than the multi-tabbed view from the QM game interface itself? One with user searches or at least lists all players on 1 page?

playing with ALTs in the same 1v1 competition of your main = high possibility to cheat.

As long as no 2 accounts request games at the same time, you will never get paired up with each other. If you believe he played himself, report his account with that game linked in the report and a moderator will take action against the cheating.

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Dude just stfu if you dont know shit. If you got the guts, then play bo11 with him. He is one of the best SE players and this fact is accepted by most of the sensible unbiased people who arnt assholes like you..... You are the first person in wz to accuse a player without any proof just because you are jealous of his rating. I mean the top 2 ranks of SE1W leaderboard are occupied by him.

Very polite of you Arrow, I'm sure you mother is proud of you. Also, why would you use 2 posts to post a single message in the forum?

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What I am asking myself now is: how can you all be that sure that he didn't?

His rating is a complete outlier data, I don't know how wonderful is he in game but with a rating like that in a temp like SE1W and so many accounts I don't get your thoughts at all. Do you think that we are all idiots except him?

If Fizzer has to assume everyone with alts is cheating in QM, he can ban half of WZ. I (and probably most people) operate on the principle that everyone in innocent until proven guilty, so I'll just assume he didnt cheat until someone proves me he did.

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Firstly, Quickmatch isnt a competition. Its just for fun casual rt/md games. You dont get a trophy if you are first in QM

It is a competition, with leaderboards and achievements. You dont get rewards besides the achievements, so cheating doesnt get you much.

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I repeat myself again: the simple fact that he uses so many smurfs is an issue by itself, no matter if he uses them even to try to smash our ratings or to cheat in other ways like scouting or direct feeding to help his main.

I dont see the problem as long as he doenst abuse his alts. I also have multiple accounts that played 1 to 5 QM games on SEAD, that only played QM cause you need to be lvl 4 to post on forums.

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Is there a better interface for it than the multi-tabbed view from the QM game interface itself? One with user searches or at least lists all players on 1 page?

No, you can look at your Template QM page to see your own rating, and then use your rating to get close-ish to the page you are listed on.