but I need to super ascend first to play it

(0. Get 10x Skip Level)
1. Ascend
2. Sengoku
3. Hardened Far Land 2-3x
4. Hardened Old Town 2-3x
5. Hardened Scandi 2-3x
6. Hardened Rise and Fall of Rome 2-3x
7. Repeat until you’re at 134k

Hardened Old Town is the best level in the game imo

Edited 2/14/2024 14:52:45

7th Super Ascend for me boys. 50% AP, ITW, IA$B, IACB, IAV, IIM, ISAC. On to the next one

@Leon Rise n Fall gives a lot but it's quite slow to get the first market
And i Vote for H Scandy if I have to choose.

Edited 2/16/2024 11:51:20

I use SAC on Rise and Fall and get the ‘second’ market first. You can mix in the other levels in between to wait for SAC cooldown to finish before replaying it.

same here. But you also needs some hours to upgrade hospitalz

Not if you’re Top 25 on a ladder :)

HRome has a very strong cache surf to start, I didn't like it either until I figured it out. Now I strongly prefer HRome to HScandi, HScandi sucks to get started even with full P4 advancements (and has the highest AM requirements). HRome also has lower AM requirements and tons of money.

HOT has by far the lowest AM requirements, but is tightest on money.

HScandy I can finish without waiting to upgrade Hospitals or upgrading once while HRome takes 3 upgrades and the tech tree needs some crafting.
I'll start HOldTown and see what's happens. Before phase4 it was slow to finish

14th super ascension, 37 days, +175% AP, 9 slots

insane AV, leg TW, leg SAC, leg AcampB, leg AcacheB, leg HB (and 1 leg and 2 epics as fodder)

HScandy I can finish without waiting to upgrade Hospitals or upgrading once while HRome takes 3 upgrades and the tech tree needs some crafting.

You must be doing something wrong then, I can do L1 hospital clears of HRome about 10-15% ICA ahead of of L1 hospital clears for HScandi. Most of the tech tree (including the +50% cache tech) gets skipped for both levels at this point, HRome takes 15-20 minutes and HScandi takes 20-30 minutes.

mmmm I tried HRome with L1 hospitals and ended with part of map unconquered and no mercs.

@mr_fancy_pants

I am curious what you mean with

I can do L1 hospital clears of HRome about 10-15% ICA ahead of of L1 hospital clears for HScandi

as I seem to not understand what you are saying here.

When I reach HScand, I have max AM and my leg acacheb. And with that setup, I push hosps to level 3 and do the cache tech as otherwise the armies are just not enough. Are you phase 4 when clearing HScand with hosps lvl 1?

Same for HRise. With 150% AM and leg acacheb, I have to push hosps to lvl 3 AND do a TS on the 66B territory, otherwise I run into drafting. (But I skip the cache tech here, too).

Edited 2/18/2024 12:25:35

Yes, for L1 hospital clears I'm talking about coming back to the "good" hardened levels after at least one ascend and generally deep into P4 advancements. Assuming leg A$B, 50% BH and 150% AM, L1 hospitals HRome is doable at around 65-70% ICA (draft free), whereas L1 hospitals HScandi takes around 80% ICA (draft free).

For a first pass on HRome for me, it's clearable draft free with L3 hospitals (and no TS) starting at ~107.5% AM. Note that this early on I don't skip the cache tech, there are a handful of thorium caches on the map that make smelting 3x lanthanum trivial during the 4h bake time for hospitals. I never bother with the last cheaper merc tech on HRome because it has gobs of money.

For a similar first pass on HScandi (L3 hospitals, take cache tech), I need ~127.5% AM for a draft free clear. Notably, crafting 10x rivets takes longer than smelting the 3x lanthanum unless I've managed to find a SC early on enough to get it up to rare already.

Ah ok, I was wondering. That makes sense...

At the moment, I barely have unlocked phase 3 (i.e., SL 6) when I go to HEX. And then I finish the super on HEX, without ever ascending or going back. The total time where I have phase 4 advancements is usually less than a very few hours before resetting everything to zero ;)

@hahaha

hmm...how come I don't see the super ascend achievement in your profile?

500 supers +2850%ap (29.5x), 39 slots, 5 dig speed, 34400 start ap


Edited 5/7/2024 00:06:02

uh oh no my primission ok i tell @cyan2024

congrats ivan for the 500

wow what a jewelry Ivan0 !!

why do you have 2 insane SAC ?

Edited 2/19/2024 13:56:07