134k start ap does help with getting every insane as you can get infinite SAsc with 25% reduced dig time. At some point the dig time will be lower then the time it takes for you to get to the Adv. Tab.

Definitely possible. What I'm saying is that in the time it takes you to get 134K start AP, you could use another method to do all you plan to do with 134K AP start time about 5-10 times over. It's absolutely NOT a wise method to complete all your Idle dreams.

Mathematician, i don't understand how you can collect 130 000AP in few days.

It's definitely possible - but (I think) only once you've actually got a few key artifacts and/or powers that you can clear levels quickly to get back to Hex and finish it 5-6 times, Ascend, reclear another 5-6 times, etc. And you're probably playing Idle about 8-10 hrs/day for 2-3 days to accomplish this.

I will finally see the color of insane.

Welcome to the club! It's nicer from the outside. (; Or if you haven't done it yet, don't come in, you're better off where you are. LOL

Mathematician, i don't understand how you can collect 130 000AP in few days.

I'm not sure what you're asking about. Are you asking about how did here spend only 8 days between 2nd and 3rd super-ascension?

Ask here lol. Don't ask me.

Between 2nd and 3rd is perhaps a bit tight (unless you drop a lot of powers), but once you get to 6+ SAsc's if you're invested in +25% AP, I can definitely see passing through the next SAsc quickly. Especially if you pick artifacts like high level IM & TW on your 1st SAsc that will help you clear Hex more efficiently, and/or use TW/IM/SAC/FC powers to clear through levels.

Kind of like this:
- SASc
- Clear/Skip to Hard Ursa, get Superpowers
- Use all SLs you have to skip 10 levels
- Play whatever levels you're good at (have intel on, etc)
- Maybe target Hard Far Land, Hard Scand to get the bonus mobile buffs & 4th slot
- Clear EH to be able to Asc later
- As soon as you have another 5 SLs, SP SL to skip 10 levels, repeat until you're at Hex
- Clear Hex 5,6,7 times (do you calcs, as many times as you need to be able to SAsc with either 2 or 3 Asc's, whatever you fancy/whatever is optimal, depends on your +25% bonus counts)
- SAsc & repeat

The majority of your AP should come from Hex, and whatever other levels you like/are good at (HEH, HT, HC, etc), so it's a matter of how good you are at either clearing and/or skipping all other levels and getting back to those levels. If you're good at it & are putting lots of time into playing, you can SAsc again in <10 days. If not, strap in & take the slow route. (;

i have the insane artifact and see the color.
it is time of superdescend for me.

updated

hello i like this game

https://i.imgur.com/RE7dIAq.png

It's starting to get old like an eternal Groundhog Day but they are going fast now.

Finally did it. Insane TW, leg AV and SAC

Edited 6/29/2022 15:55:11

Leg IV not Leg AV?

@Xeno

You're at 8 super-ascensions?

8 SAsc's, nice, can you make it through to a new SAsc without Asc now?

Sorry Krinid meant to say AV

@Chill, Good good, was worried that you upgraded the wrong arti and were wasting potential.

I'm at 12 actually

Edit: @Krinid: No, I still ascend but just once. I'm trying to minimize IM use since I'm getting low on those.

Edited 6/29/2022 17:37:43

Not surprising, unless you really go at levels like HEH, HT, HC, 7yw, 30yw a few times each, then maybe 0 Ascensions works, but relying mostly on Hex requires (according to my calcs) about 12x 25% AP buffs + the 25% Adv buff to get it all done w/o Asc, where each Asc clears Hex 5 times.

Edited 6/29/2022 18:07:16

28
1 SAsc / 48 hrs
Artifacts
https://ibb.co/sC7nTrS

How???

Here do you still need to Ascend? Or just Super-Ascend

Is there a particular reason for keeping Smelt Double? Or is it just a random epic artifact to be sacrificed later?

Wow, with 400% AP bonus, you can SAsc without Asc'ing just by doing 3x Hex + a bunch of other levels (on the way to Hex) or 4x Hex.