you are from US jsa? right? you can ask for join ahol ....

But Beelzebub, as nooby as I am, I still beat you 2/2, the great 99% winner, who has taken 1st in the 1v1 ladder, with 2 different teammates in the 2v2 ladder, soon to be a third possibly. How did this happen? I guess I just got really, really lucky?

Why would you let me in to collect the tag then? That doesn't make sense. I consider myself to still be in [WM]. Just because I took the tag off does not mean I quit the clan. In all honesty, I didn't want to be in a clan when I have a very good chance of getting booted. It makes me feel like a bad clanmate when I leave my teammates hanging. Once I become more active again, I can play some games and get up 5 levels and change the name easily. It just makes me sure I am planning on staying on warlight and not leaving again, because it will take a little bit of time and activity to gain the 5 levels. It's like a mental thing for myself, you probably aren't gonna understand my reasoning behind it. I guess you guys have misjudged me, which I can understand, but I don't like it. If I really wanted all of the good clan's tags on my name, why wouldn't I ask to join [20]?

I have thought about asking to join AHOL before. I like all of the guys in it. I just feel like I took warlight too seriously to be in that clan. I've changed my stance on that but at the moment, I'm kinda burned out on being in clans. Even if I do leave [WM] in the future, I'm not sure if I'd join another clan ever. I like them, but 90% of clan stuff can be done without being in a clan. I feel like most of that other 10% is the clan league, and that is why I keep doing it.

Calm it people. Lets get back to topic. Personally I think we should stick to the way it was meant to be:
Group A: WM, Apex, WG, Ahol, GG, VIW, BIA
(Simple because BIA is basically CPU team last season)
Group B: WL, Regl, 101st, Warlighters, Dragons, BR, (best new clan) XCD's good but there might be better) (MC I believe is dead)
Group C: The best 7 new clans
Group D: The next best 7 clans
And so on.........simple.

I can do what ever you need me to do. When we get the template and format ready. I will ask a load of clans, if they would like to play.

We should just stick to last years rules/format/template. With lots of people coming up with different ideas, it just over complicates things. The clan leagues meant to be simple and fun.

Edited 11/3/2013 22:33:51

C'mon Jsa.....Happens...I can say that I have always won against Luxis apex, which is a player that hold #1 with a better rating than me but I've always lost against GMontag which is a player than have never hold the top....number of games played not very indicative!!

active, lucky, motivated, focused, have time to think. this is gui's guide to be #1.....be motivated in a league C against noobs its really hard, thats why im sure 20 isnt interested at this....
If gui had been interested in your clan league , he would have join from the first edition....dont you think? if he made his clan official its "only" for the new clan system....
aniway at him last word...

Ahol, WM , P , WG , CK, CPU......I know that you love all clans and the whole warlight community except me, with me only hard sex in forum...How did this happen? I guess I just got really, really huge cock?

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Aranka and blitzy, What is common to these 2 players?

Yes BIA should remplace cpu for the reason that apollo explain.

mayhem whenever jay comes around.

i didnt bother to read all that. so is xcd or bia doing this?

i think we want either Group A or Group C, since we a new clan, not Group B, is that ok?

Edited 11/3/2013 23:01:24

Group B: WL, Regl, 101st, Warlighters, Dragons, BR, (best new clan) XCD's good but there might be better) (MC I believe is dead) (Master is apparently not worth mentioning)

WL get booted in some RR if i remember right. Before put them in B, make sure to check if they are still active. I can help for stuff of A league like i did for post update of point if you need.

okay i glanced through all that. go beelz!

To be completely neutral, i agree with fridge here. Its a league. in a league all new participants start from the bottom. their dont just jump right in.

not to mention there are still some CPUs around, if everyone in CPU changed to BIA like everyone in relite changed to GG, then this substitution can occur.

However....

BIA≠CPU

So, this substitution cannot happen.

ta-da

PS: but i realize my inferiority and lack of wisdom compared to jay, so he obviously should make the final call. just giving my humble opion.

Oh yeah, sorry forgot Masters

Yes but Pulsey all of the players that played for CPU last season are in BIA well most of them. There hard work to stay in A, should be carried with them.

Your ignorance is amazing Pulsey. XCD and WG have equal claims on CPU's spot. BIA has a much better claim than both of them. You do realize that 3 of [WG]'s members came exclusively from CPU (Robespierre, Mirror, Ineffable), same as XCD (Ryan, Slammy, Gruffalo). BIA has many more than that. That has been clearly decided.

The thing yet to be decided is how the clan league should work in future years and this year in terms of which group new clans are placed in. That will be up to the Group A representatives.

Why do the group A reps get the only votes? There are active, and interested people in group b: myself, Alex etc. You should try to expand the vote wherever you can to glean a more rounded view.

very sorry for my ignorance, jay. I'm sorry to have insulted you with my stupid opinion. Please forgive inferior, lesser beings like me in the future.

Well I have not read the whole thread (12 pages OMG!) But i have no issues starting at the bottom of the league. It may take a while to shake out the good clans into where they naturally rank, but hey im up for it, We just want to participate and have some fun.

XCD is a new clan and we are light on players ATM, so it may be best to start at the bottom until we recruit a few more good players

In my personal opinion WG or XCD has no claims to CPU spot, BIA is essentially CPU under a different name, having shed a few pounds.

Is there a game/team size template for the league? Just so i can get an idea of how many players we are likely to need

Ps I ask this so i dont have to read the whole 12 pages

Is there a game/team size template for the league? Just so i can get an idea of how many players we are likely to need

Last season had a minimum of 4 players and a maximum of 11, broken down to...

4 Strat 1v1 players
4 2v2 players, one pair on ME and the other on EA&O
3 3v3 players on Europe

Each player may play in only 1 tournament for each team type (So, with 4 players, all players play in 1v1 and 2v2, and 3 of the 4 play 3v3)

Thanks Tsumiki

Simple solution:

Gnuff will play all games for 20 starting from Group X until they reach Group A.

No thanks =)
i don't see point for fight noob of Group Z :P
thought i think would really interesting play this as "gnuff clan", i play all games with my alt. could be very interesting see if i can manage to win and keep focus in all match for 3/4 month :D