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It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 17:23:56


Genghis 
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^ It's true.

>Age 20
>Walk down neighborhood.
>Like a thug.
>Overhear redneck. Says " Obama is Muslimac who wants us to be defenseless. "
>Lols because defense spending.
>Hides because i don't want to be shot for being only smart person in hood.
>It's not ogre. It's never ogre.
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 17:32:41


Eklipse
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These people don't even know what the word oligarchy means. They just vote whomever supports their Jesus, their guns and all the rest. Don't flatter them by saying they have the mental capacity to understand the situation for what it really is.

Oligarchy is a small group of people running a country (In a nutshell). The fact that you resort to demonizing people you don't agree with (Implying that Christians and anyone who supports the 2nd Amendment can't be politically informed) shows that you are the one lacking proper mental capacity.
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 19:16:22


OttomanEmpire
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Eklipse {TJC}

Because funny enough the American government is the biggest enemy to peace in the world right now. these countries in the Middle East like Iraq, Libya and Aghanistan and terrorist groups in those countries were armed by America and then America blows the shit of these countries and the invade it like Iraq in 2003 with the so called weapons of mass destruction, America is like bully in the globe. Since America was founded in 1776 it has been at war 214 years out of the 239 years it existed.
But you believe you government and were just haters because they pound bullshit into your head from the time you were a child that's what they do, they keep putting it in the head of kids they pound it in because they know kids are too young to be able to mount a sophisticated argument against those bullshit ideas.
So kids are going to believe everything a grown up tells them so you never learn to questioning things and just becoming willfully ignorant of the big red white and blue dick being jammed up your ass all day.
America solves problems by declaring war on it, war on drugs, war on terror, war on poverty but did you ever notice that there is no war on Homelessness, you know why because there's no money in that's problem its against there interest.
But yeah we are the puppets and we should not criticize America but do as they tell us what to do because otherwise your just a blinded hater, because I use a moronic thing called thinking.

Edited 3/18/2015 19:19:49
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 19:43:10


Eklipse
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OttomanEmpire, way to miss my point by a mile. I'm well aware America has it's problems, and lord knows there'd be a lot of changes if I was in charge. However, I'm sick and tired of people blinding hating the U.S and blaming it for all the world's problems. I'm even more tired of the hypocrites who seem to act like every other country is perfect and that America is some evil empire.

America is not all bad, but if anyone ever tries to defend it on ANYTHING people like you come around and accuse them of just being brainwashed puppets. Blindly hating a country is just as ignorant as blindly loving it, keep that mind.

Also, stop with the double standard. You seem to think it's okay for you to accuse me of being a puppet but if I do that to you than you go off on a tirade about it.

Edited 3/18/2015 19:44:33
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 20:11:54


myhandisonfire 
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However, I'm sick and tired of people blinding hating the U.S and blaming it for all the world's problems. I'm even more tired of the hypocrites who seem to act like every other country is perfect and that America is some evil empire.


Nobody is blindly hating on the USA, most of us have a very sophisticated concept on what we criticize in the USA. Nor do most of us justify the wrong doings of other nations on the world. Your perception is just plain wrong.
You are like a guy who is accusing another guy who happens to have a brain tumor, pneumonia and arthritis, that all he is complaining about is his brain tumor.

I'm even more tired of the hypocrites who seem to act like every other country is perfect


If you can find hypocrisy in anything I am saying, please show me. Actually the hypocrisy is a US American speciality and its not a minor part of what we all criticize.

and that America is some evil empire.


The sooner you come to understand that exactly that is true the better.

America is not all bad, but if anyone ever tries to defend it on ANYTHING people like you come around and accuse them of just being brainwashed puppets. Blindly hating a country is just as ignorant as blindly loving it, keep that mind.


Of course America is not all bad.
There are millions of people with good intentions. But these people get indoctrinated, disinformed, victimized and criminalized by their own governments, the media and the plutocracy controlling it.

There are tons of eceptional smart people, fully aware of what the USA stands for. But they get ridiculed, smeared, denied plublicity and harrassed by the US System.

When will you understand that the people of the United States are the victim of their own system?
So again, most of us are not blindly hating on the USA, stop repeating it as if it were some kind of mantra.

Edited 3/18/2015 20:31:00
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 20:18:50


Genghis 
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Myhand, what exactly do you want america and other blind nations' peoples to do. ..

An armed revolution seems bloody. High death toll.

Everybody just up and leaving the system and becoming hippy farms or devolving into feudalism isn't very attractive.

The system works. Your morality prevents it from it appearing functional to you.
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 20:26:45


myhandisonfire 
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I never denied that it works. It's obvious that it works very well. You are manipulated for so long, that you lost the belief that a better world is even possible. It's a job well done, you don't see me denying that.

Americans like you seem to be satisfied to work more each day, to earn less, have to pay more for basic needs each day to have a worse health care. To expend more funds to the police, just to feel less secure.
You seem to be perfectly comfortable to give away all your rights one by one, just to be proud on the rich peoples army marching into foreign countries.
As long as you have the circensis and the panem, you will stay quiet.

But you can't expect the rest of the world to just sit idly by and accept your idioticy Genghis without resistance.

Edited 3/18/2015 20:27:32
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 20:45:10


Genghis 
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My nation is founded on a declaration of war, a compromise with a broken way to govern and the belief that law can be changed to account for the situation.

It was idiotic to start with, so congratulations for whining about it on an Internet Forum 300 years after the fact.

At this point, I'm tired of trying to argue. You are trying to move an immovable object. Let things be the way they are : if you can't see the brighter side of things, so be it. If you continue a pessimistic approach to how America and nations like it suck,be my guest. Just not on the warlight Forum, where everybody has had enough.

EDIT : I'm not sure how or if anyone has the effort to continue to conduct this pointless discussion.

Edited 3/18/2015 20:47:01
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 21:30:44


Epicular
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Note that this is coming from an American-
I completely agree with you- the US government has A LOT of issues.
A LOT of them.
But whining about them on the Warlight forums is no way to go about convincing people.
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 21:34:45


myhandisonfire 
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@genghis and epicular: Is not like that I am forcing you to read any of this, let alone spill your thought processes all over this thread. You are tired of reading, move along, I don't feel you will be much missed.
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 21:35:07


Thomas 633
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still haven't responded...
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 22:22:58


Жұқтыру
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Let me offer you a system:

Per every 10 negative threads you make about the US:

Make 22 about China
Make 8 about India
Make 4 about Japan
Make 4 about Brazil
Make 3 about Russia
Make 3 about Germany
Make 2 about Nigeria
Make 2 about Britain
Make 2 about France
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 22:46:29


Addy the Dog 
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can we pls all agree that any cartoon where america is represented by uncle sam is automatically terrible and not funny
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 22:58:48


Eklipse
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myhand, ever considered that some people are just plain tired of nearly every topic and post you make just surmounting to, "AMERICA IS EVIL! AMERICA IS EVIL! AMERICA IS EVIL!" ?

It's part of the reason why I accuse you of blind hate, because all you ever do is trash talk the U.S. You never criticize the problems of other nations, nor do you ever say anything positive or suggest solutions. It's laughable to expect a good reaction when you keep trying to shove the, "YOUR COUNTRY IS EVIL WAKE UP STUPID SHEEPLE" message down everyone's throat.
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 23:10:26


myhandisonfire 
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No matter what you accuse me of, its pointless unless you argue against it and prove me wrong.
You want me to ignore the brain tumor and rather talk about the cough. I get it already. But it won't be happening. As long as US politics are the greatest threat to humanity, I will speak about them.
Besides, I am more than willing to criticize other nations or institutions whos policies show an equal disregard for democractic and humanitarian values and who pose and equal peace for freedom and world peace. Such countries include Israel, Germany or the EU for that matter and I have criticized them in the past.

The reason why I am criticizing China and Russia to a smaller extend is simply not because I don't think there is anything to criticize, but that your Media is already adressing them with overexaggeration and hipocricy in abundance. They are already overrepresented in the media.

Edited 3/18/2015 23:11:44
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 23:20:37


Eklipse
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You want me to ignore the brain tumor and rather talk about the cough.

Actually I'd rather you stopped screaming about brain tumors when a cough is all there really is.

As long as US politics are the greatest threat to humanity

Pffttt, talk about exaggerating. Look myhand, just calm down. The U.S isn't going to go out and conquer the world, there is little desire for that here and it's not doable anyways. We aren't going to nuke anybody either, that panic was solved during the Cold War. The U.S is capable of some terrible screw-ups but it's not going to do anything that will end the world.

Such countries include Israel, Germany or the EU for that matter and I have criticized them in the past.

Well, I'll concede that up until a few months or so ago I only occasionally lurked the forums. So you might be right here, however as of late the only things I've seen from you is Anti-US threads,Anti-US threads, Anti-U.S threads...
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 23:22:59


❤HankyPinky 
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@myhandisonfire

I'm not a fan of how America is run either. That's why I have yet to vote at 26 years of age. But pointing out problems is useless unless you suggest solutions. Others have alluded to this in their posts, but they also included attitude in that forced you to only respond to that attitude.

So America has problems, I agree. How do we fix them?
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 23:24:14


Thomas 633
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still haven't responded...

I am just pointing it out...
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-18 23:30:38


myhandisonfire 
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It's not an exaggeration, it's just more insight into these topics than you have.

TTIP and TISA USAmerican brainchilds - greatest current threat to worldwide democracy.
CIA engangement and Coup de Etats - greatest current threat to worldwide sovereignity.
The demonizination of- and noncooperation with- the ICC - greatest current threat to worldwide justice.
The republicans fight against net neutrality - greatest current threat to worldwide freedom.

What in reality you can see from me are:
Pro-justice, Pro-democracy, pro-freedom, pro-nationalsovereignity, pro-pluralism, pro-humanitarian values threads.
You just happen to read them:
Anti-US, Anti-US, Anti-US, Anti-US, Anti-Us, Anti-US threads...

Edited 3/18/2015 23:30:54
It's official: USA an oligarchy, no democracy: 2015-03-19 00:49:11


Eklipse
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None of the threads you make promote pro-anything. All they serve to do is inflame hatred against the United States. If you'd actually come up with solutions instead of just picking out and exaggerating problems than the topics would be productive.

None of the things you listed classify as "greatest threat to humanity". The republicans fight against net neutrality only affects U.S citizens whether they succeed or not. TISA and TTIP are likely to fail in a similar manner as SOPA did. The ICC (I assume you were referring to the International Criminal Court, there are many organizations with the same abbreviation) doesn't really seem necessary, and regardless the U.S is only one among dozens of nations that haven't gotten fully on board. (Biggest examples India,China, and Russia).

The only big issue I agree with is the CIA, which isn't a newcomer to law breaking. They need to be reigned in along with a few other select agencies of the government.
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