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Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 17:36:29

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The responses to this threat are deeply troubling. The only thing I have learned from this chat is that warlight is indeed infected by white supremacists. The lack of understanding about race, race relations, and critical race theory displayed in this threat is exactly the problem I am trying to call out. I will respond to each response directly and try to explain race to y'all, but it will be extremely difficult given your lack of conceptual framework. Reading some Frantz Fanon, Franke Wilkerson, Bell Hooks, and Jared Sexton is strongly recommended so you have an understanding about race theory and relations, especially at this important critical juncture.


Жұқтыру - " Ok, let me try again. All countries' blacks, unite! Now, the background will be white! And the blacklist will be called the whitelist!"

Response - This response is extremely disrespectful to an important issue I am trying to raise to the warlight community. Race is an ontological state. Being is what determines race. No matter what I do my race will always be with me. The problem is not in discourse. Language is fluid and only meaningful if it signifies a violent racist ontology and places upon black bodies. The background of warlight and work blacklist is not a concern I am raising at all.


Angry Panda - "The truth is nobody gives a shit about what "race" you are, so stop trolling here."

This comment is a typical one for this threat and extremely troubling. First I will assume you did not put quotes around the word race. "The truth is nobody gives a shit about what race". The problem is exactly that no body gives a shit about race, yet modern society is founded on anti-blackness. Modernity is predicated on the slave trade and existence of the black body being enslaved. For a brief example of why this is true consider the slave trade. The costs of traveling to Africa, enslaving a people, and then moving them to the home country is extremely costly. Enslaving other groups that were white would have been far cheaper. The industrial revolution was fueled by the exploitation and enslavement of Africans in Africa. Modern society is founded fundamentally on the backs of the black body.

Society has not moved beyond the enslavement of the black body. A disproportionate number of whites are represented in government in every single western country in the world. The black body is systematically excluded from political life, a concept called social death. The opinions of black individuals are considered inherently less than those of white individuals. Problems of black people are considered out there, on the periphery of society. The reason you don't care about race is because it doesn't effect you. Your life has benefited in ways you cannot imagine because of the color of your skin. The advantages you have received are not simply because you are white, but they actively come at the expense of those that are black.

The problem is that people don't give a shit about race. Race is an apriori issue that must be addressed before other issues can be discussed. Warlight is fundamentally a rigged game against the black body when they can't participate in civil society. Warlight is simply an extension of typical civil society. Advantages that exist in typical society continue. Issues that are not discussed in society are still not discussed. Where was the protest, uproar, or critique of police brutality after a number of black individuals were targeted and killed. Where was the uproar on the forums? Where was the civil activism? THE PROBLEM IS THAT WARLIGHT DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT. Warlight is a group of individuals who are fundamentally racist given there privileged position in society. The question then is what they do with that position of racism, which is fundamental. All white people are racist in modern western society because of their privileged position, and foundation of society on anti-blackness. Are all whites white supremacist? No, the question is if one actively looks to address racial inequality and anti-blackness, or do they simply allow the system to continue with an indifferent attitude.

The plethora of comments that believe this topic was a 'troll' topic is the problem and why I believe warlight if founded and ran by white supremacists. Individuals actively say they are color blind or do not care about race. That is the problem that individuals don't look to address anti-blackness. Individuals actively continue and promote white supremacy by their failure to take an active stand against issues of racial inequality.

I have partially dressed the issue of trolling, in this comment, but I would like to address it briefly for a second. To anyone that thinks issues of race are for trolling FUCK YOU. You don't know what is like to be black in American society. You don't know what its like to be black in European society. You don't fucking know what its like. You think its some kind of thing to joke about. When you are actively excluded from society, targeted by the state, actively encouraged to die, and without value to your fucking life you don't joke about that shit. FUCK YOU for thinking it is some kind of joke. FUCK YOU for not addressing the issue. But also thank you for showing you are a white supremacist and helping prove my point.

Finally the use of quotations around the word 'race'. This highlights your lack of understanding on the issue of race. Race is fundamental to identity. No matter what even if you are color blind and don't know what race I am or others are you are still racist. You have a privileged position in civil society. The position you have is fundamentally a racist one. Your lack of understanding of your privilege is showed in your quote and attempts to say you are race blind. Race is a state of being, even if you can't see it, it is still something experienced by billions of people that you directly benefit from and actively undermine progress towards addressing the issue. Your active use of your privilege and lack of understanding of race is why I brought this problem to the attention of the warlight community and called for warlight to end. Warlight like civil society must be burned to the ground. Only burning civil society and warlight down to the ground can redeem the black body and advance the black body.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 17:37:29

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Kreczmar - " Kentucky=Wyoming Nobody cares about your skin colour. Nobody in Warlight can see if you're really black. Maybe you're just a fat white kid or drunken Indian of Sioux tribe."

The issue of skin color has been addressed above. The problem i have is that society actively cares about skin color. Society is founded on the backs of the black body. Anti-blackness is a fundamental state of society. Your lack of caring about skin color is what allows for the continuation of anti-blackness as the foundation for civil society. Even if no one can see who is black, who is asian, who is white, those individuals have been influenced and are still influenced by their personal experiences. Warlight is not neutral because it doesn't take these problems into account.

I would also like to call attention to the phrase "drunken Indian of Sioux tribe". HOW DARE YOU. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. You white supremacist fuck. You should be banned from warlight.


MrCherry - "Oh look. Trolling. *yawn*"

I have addressed the issue of trolling above. FUCK YOU. Your active acceptance of civil society and indifference about the issues of the black body makes you a white supremacist.


Coronel Gavilan - "white supremacy in Warlight?? I dont think so.... maybe racism towards an ethnicity but anyway as someone said no one can see your "race" here. Don't push an agenda here please. (Btw.. I don't supress the right to talk about Freddie Gray and others cases)"

I think I have addressed this issue in a number of places but I will address the question of race and white supremacy first. Racism is fundamental to the white body in civil society. Civil society being founded on anti-blackness and the black body means that all whites are definitionally racist because of their position in society. White supremacy is the failure to address civil society and anti-blackness. White supremacists who fail to call attention and actively address issues of racial equality and fail to recognize their privilege are white supremacists.

Next you say "don't push an agenda here - btw I'm not a white supremacist. First you are a white supremacist. Your failure to actively address racial inequality is a functional suppression of issues of racial equality. Civil society, and in this case warlight actively undermine racial progress through their failure to actively address issues of social justice. The agenda of racial equality and destruction of civil society founded on anti blackness in all of its aspects must be pushed. The agenda is not spoken about or pushed unless it is addressed. Only calling attention to this issue can dress it. Your active push to silence me, and silence others who try to call attention to this issue proves you are white supremacist.


Dublin Warrior - "Second, yes, you will find that I ignore most political/socio-economic discussions here, and on most gaming forums. This is especially true of tragic, and controversial topics, the topics that trolls like the most.
This is despite the fact that I have always been very interested in current events.
I have been very active in pushing for political and socio-economic change out in the real world for much of my life
I strongly support repealing most/all of the USA Patriot Act, and bringing civilian review boards to all communities experiencing issues with how and why law enforcement officers interact with the community.

1) I visit here to play a game, not to have a serious discussion, argument, or debate on the real world issues which compel me to seek refuge on gaming websites in the first place.

2) Internet Trolls. -- more on them later."

Thank you for your support in the real world. I find it disappointing that you fail to address issues of racial equality online, but I respect your help on the issue. Hopefully after reading this thread and thinking about the issue more you will address the issue of racial equality more. The rest of your post was very nice and respectable. I am glad you care about these issues and hope moving forward you can help address this issue.


Captain Trips - " unless you tell someone your race ..how in the hell would they know ...if anything when I see Kentucky I think about people like Raylan Givens and Boyd Crowder...moonshine and rednecks...does that make me a racist against rednecks...am I a Mexican ...can you see me ??? this is an international game ..if you don't like being singled out for race then stop telling people your color"

Read everything else I have already said.


Thomas 633

Please ready everything else I have said. FUCK YOU for thinking these issues are troll related issues.


Elroi - "The only solution is an end to warlight. All white players must give up their attempts to control and dominate. The extensions of colonialism promoted by warlight are not neutral. Warlight as a website must end." Lol Your inclusion sounds really not a racist (sarcastic
Most of the players here are from Europe and the United States, the majority are white, if players respond racism, just report instead crying in the Forum...

Wow. You are really a white supremacist. Your failure to care about or desire to address issues of racial equality. I think I have stated my position clearly throughout the rest of this post. Hopefully you realize the importance of ending civil society no in order to address anti blackness.


ps - "Sure there are a few kids / trolls / idiots in warlight who might do random racist remarks, like everywhere in the world idiots exist.

However, there is a report system on warlight to report that behavior, which whenever i used it seemed to have been applied to admonish the people in question. Plus there is a blacklist system in place, so you are not forced to play with those kind of people.

I fail to see it as the endemic problem kentucky is describing.

I also fail to see how warlight is founded on fundamentally racist principles.

My conclusion is that you're trolling."

FUCK YOU for thinking I'm trolling. I have clearly outlined my logic and the destination between racism, anti blackness, and white supremacy. Your lack of understanding of basic racial theory and race issues shows to me that you are clearly a white supremacist.


Judeburger - "All races throughout history have tried to subjugate others, it's just that recently (the last few centuries) Europeans (whites) have been better at it than anyone else. "Muh colonialism" = sour grapes."

This posit is hilariously stupid. Please tell me civil society is not founded on antiblackenss. You don't have to be white to be antilock. Please name a society that isn't founded on antiblackenss. I guarantee you will not be able to.


Tyrion Lannister - "Frankly, Kentucky, it's your own fault.
You have openly admitted to mocking people in games for their warlights skills, using such words as "idiot" and "moron".
If you mock someone for not being as good at you for a game, I can't blame them for insulting you back.
Also having this are your bio:
If I wanted to talk to bitchez I would talk to my dogs.
Provers your a troll."

"Frankly, Kentucky, it's your own fault." - WOW. WOW. I am sure you love blaming rape victims too. You are a real fuck you know that? I can't believe what a horrible person you are. I support all women and issues of social and economic equality. Your blaming of those stuck in the periphery of society for problems they did not chose to face if horrible. I hope you are banned from warlight.

Next I have already stated that discourse is fluid. Being a bad bitch is now considered good. Context and the what the sign signifies is important. Discourse is simply fluid and constantly changing meaning. Everything I have said is consistent with this fact. I have raised an issue about western metaphysics and the foundation of western society against the ontologically black body.

Finally. FUCK YOU. These issues are not worth trolling over. These are important issues to billions of people globally. The fact you think this is some kind of laughing matter and that a number of people have is extremely troubling.


Kartoffelr - "I am quite new but i can talk for myself: I don't give a damn about my opponents or allies skin colors. And i find edgy holocaust jokes in public chats pretty awkward.
But what i already experienced are extremely rude players, (yet) solely from the US. I have not yet been randomly queried and insulted by european, russian or other players. Maybe this is because a majority of warlight players are from the US? I have no idea."

I am concerned that you don't care about your opponents skin color. I doubt you care about skin color in your everyday life either. Your failure to care is why civil society continues to be foundered on anti blackness and needs to be burned to the ground. Only through a violent revolution can society be redeemed.

berdan131 - "Kentacky, I don't know if ur black, but you clearly have black logic
"This community if founded on fundamentally antiblack principles"
"The only solution is an end to warlight"
Just how much stupid one must be to say such bullshit, either troll or just giving whites another reason for the stereotype of black stupidity. You are a disgrace to all smart Negroes."

Wow. I think comments like this prove everything I have said. 'black logic', 'smart negoes' wow. you are a disgrace to all smart white people. FUCK YOU!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 17:46:01


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lol
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 17:50:55


berdan131
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I met some really great black people out there when I was abroad. And why you think I'm racist? Its not a racist comment that black people have smaller brains on average, by maybe, hmm 10% and that they have statistically lower IQ, also different skull shape. It's not racist comment its a scientific FACT.

It all makes them different. Being stupid doesn't mean being worse. It means there are less black physicists but black people can be great friends and maybe better at physical work and better sprinters than whites.

End by end, stereotypes didn't appear out of nothing, they are an effect of actions, decisions and behaviour of groups of people and there is lot of truth in them.

I don't mind if your' stupid, but at least don't be ignorant. What are warlight principles? Is there a set of anti-black official rules, hmm? What your saying only works against your intelligence. You said this ignorant statements, not "warlight racists"!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 18:07:44


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So yes, I am confident enough to say that there are many dumb black people, but only they worked for their titles. Respect must be earned. No wonder blacks were perfect slaves, as they were easily fooled.

It doesn't refer to all of black people, just to some or, majority of them. Also, I say this to negroes as a whole, I would never personally said it to anyone.

Kentucky demands that black be treated the same as white. Actually, they are treated the same, the law doesn't discriminate them. They just have lower potential on average and therefore earn less, get worse grades... They've worked for this, and the white, bad, supremacy gave them the same opportunities as for non-black kids, only they wasted these opportunities.

There is freedom of word and everyone can have any opinion on anyone, opinion is not a matter of discrimination, if you were brought some centuries ago, then you would face real slavery, apartheid and discrimination.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 18:21:29


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Wait can people even tell if you are black or white or any other skin color on Warlight. The people telling you these things in game are probably a-holes and have no life. Who cares what somebody says about your race. The only thing to do is ignore them cause you should not let it affect you.

And i find it offensive to categorize every white person here as a white supremacist

Edited 5/7/2015 18:22:41
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 18:24:04


Жұқтыру
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Let me try one more time:

All countries' blacks, unite! The colour white will now be banned from Warlight! Now, the background will be white! And the blacklist will be called the whitelist!"

Edited 5/7/2015 18:55:04
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 18:26:30


Kain
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hey, if you dont like living with white people then go to africa!!!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 19:09:17

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I don't know why, but that sounds raciest.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 19:14:19


Eklipse
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Unless you can post some solid examples of games or topics where you experienced this racism you'll likely be thought a troll by everyone.

Secondly, the report feature is there for a reason.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 19:39:57


Жұқтыру
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He is a troll - he suggested shutting down Warlight as the only solution.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 19:54:04


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What if I am black? The point is to not tell people your race brother.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 20:05:28


Kain
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What if I am black too - does my previus post sounds so raceist now?
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 20:19:57

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No.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 20:33:59

ShotPhoenix4
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I have a very simple solution for you Kentucky. Either leave Warlight or just ignore the people that are racist. Stop complaining over and over again in the forums. It is just getting annoying as all fuck so stop. BTW you just got told by a 13 year old.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 20:50:56


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Dublin stayed up waaaaaaaaay past his proper bedtime before he started that post...

but yes, I wish I had the sense at the time to add a TL:DR summary. :P

Summary: There are many other ways for Kentucky to deal with the experience that they have been having, and most of those ways are going to get Kentucky better results than starting a forum thread.

And yes, there are a lot of people who don't know half as much as they think / judge...

Many of them are in this topic. At least you gave me an easy, albeit disheartening list of people to block/avoid.

And yes, thanks to the person who pointed out Kentucky's bio tagline...
I probably would have skipped this thread altogether if I had comprehended the full meaning of that at 3am last night. :P

Edited 5/7/2015 20:56:48
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 21:11:13


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There is no need for this in warlight. It's a game. To the extent people like to converse within said game, that's a mutual decision. Plenty of times, I try to get chatty and the person has no interest... or vice versa. That's their choice. Plenty of times, people attempt to troll me; I have a choice to respond there, too.

The reluctance to engage in socioeconomic or political discussions does not equate to racism. Some people are just here to enjoy the game.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 22:14:40


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Not siding with Kentucky here, but what's with the weird number of people who're obsessed with fascism and whose understanding of science and history doesn't really account for all the advances since the 1930s? I mean, we're talking about someone in this thread who cited phrenology as scientific fact.

I haven't been able to play a diplo in weeks where whoever picked Germany wasn't playing as a Nazi and decided to chew out all non-whites or whatever. I'm obviously not public about my race (because that's a stupid thing to talk about anyway), but it's still odd for someone (like the user Proud2BWhite) to spam chat with just a bunch of racism. It's like we've been hijacked by Stormfront.

What the actual fuck, basically. I have no idea what's going on. It doesn't offend or anger me, but I'm still extremely curious as to why it's happening.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 22:16:34


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The only thing that needs to end is this awful thread.
(Also my casus belli for war on Nazi Germany players is "a criminal lack of creativity)

Edited 5/7/2015 22:17:46
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-07 23:17:02


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I see some of you here don't want to accept the truth. It sounds like bigotry, but yes.

See, I don't know what race you are and what's your skull shape, but the fact that someone has little little head and is, dumb, yes lets name things as they are, DOES NOT MEAN he is in worse position as opposed to person with a bigger head.

There is a number of advantages for having smaller skull, that people with bigger ones will never enjoy. Such are: people with smaller head may have faster reaction times, faster thinking, their brains consume energy so he can thrive on less food, his head is lighter relatively to his body so he can run faster, jump higher because the head weight is less of an obstacle to his body.

So black and any people shouldn't be ashamed/complain about it. Their are faster and think faster than their male counterparts will ever be able to.

Lastly, bigger head does not always mean smarter, it usually does however so I am overgeneralizing.

So @Tupac Shakur, this thread is not awful, it helps us understand and ACCEPT that we are different.

@Knyte Yes, its logical that skull shape and size affects the one you think and who you are, but it seems you don't want to see it. I think it's better to know the truth and accept it rather than deny and hide. I can give you a scientific proof. Write in google "evolutionary path of homo sapiens" and see that as our skull/cranial capacity increased, we were getting smarter, more mentally capable.

@Dublin Warrior Yes maybe I shouldn't say all this things in my posts. I hope I didn't know all this things, but once I know them, I cannot remove them from my mind. I learned it in class at age 12. This is maybe a kind of taboo knowledge.

Sometimes I had racist thoughts in the past and I wasn't happy with this(because of all this knowledge), I was trying to be more tolerant. The only thing that helped me was thinking about the other side of medal, that being dumber/having smaller head is better for some aspects. This is my message and what I want to tell. Probably it is a shock for many people and would like to avoid it, but hey, this is the world we live in!
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