Don't call for revolution, if black people are excluded from politics, maybe they are not trusted enought to take governance over a country. And for a good reason: see obama, the worst president in US history.

Not trusted enough... by white voters? You do realise that tells us nothing about their ability to govern; it might simply mean white people are terrible at judging governing skill? (Given how American presidential elections are usually close to 50/50, that means consistently almost half of the population votes for the worse candidate...)

The worst President? Oh sure, if we forget people like Nixon (who resigned just in time before going into history as the first impeached president and should have been the first (ex-)president to go to jail), Ford (who's pardoned Nixon... and became the first President in over a century to have to testify before Congress), Bush Jr. (who, the first time around, got elected by the Supreme Court instead of by the People and his "second" election made each and every single person on the planet without an American passport completely and utterly lose faith in the ability of American voters to tell a proven idiot from a credible Presidential candidate) and probably quite a few more I forgot because I don't know too much about American politics.
Also, how about you give some reasons why you consider Obama a bad president. And don't just shout "Obamacare", articulate why you think it's a bad system... you know, to safeguard against the possibility you're just repeating after Fox Propaganda (or Fox "News" as they call themselves) but don't really know what you're talking about.

And even if Obama were a bad president, one black president screwing up does not, in any way, shape or form, mean that all black people would make bad presidents. To show the utter brokenness of your reasoning, let's forget about black and white and talk about grey for a bit. Let's make a special kind of zoo, one which only has grey animals. Of course the giraffes ("white presidents")can get in, because at first we're not paying any attention at all. Then suddenly, for the first time, we see an animal other than a giraffe, an elephant wants to join our zoo. Well, of course we can't have that, elephants are not fit for a grey-animal-only zoo and for a good reason: see the least grey animal in animal history.
This reasoning is, from a logical point of view, exactly as valid as your reasoning about Obama; you have two choices, either agree that my reasoning is broken (and admit your reasoning is likewise broken), or keep supporting your own reasoning and state that you find my reasoning to make perfect sense too (what that will do to your credibility is a different matter, of course).

Anyone calling for the death of Warlight, on a Warlight forum is obviously a troll. gg.

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The original topic:

Watch - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/opinion/a-conversation-about-growing-up-black.html?_r=1

RvW, I agree much with what you said, Fox "News" is not news, but an extension of the Republican Party spewing racism and sexism, also fear mongering about how America is "at war with religion (which Republicans have integrated into government)", also how gay people "threaten the establishment of marriage(I mean, wtf? If Jesus were working at a Starbucks, would he turn down service to gay people, like in Indiana?)", How Obamacare is "wrecking America (evidence, please), and how "Obama is the worst president ever (Nixon)". Your comments about Bush are hilarious af, sadly you didn't all about Dick Cheney. Bardan, not trusted, really? You are just plain racist. Kentucky, I assure you if you join my games I will not allow racism towards you, or anyone else. If there's one thing I can't stand its intolerance (I'm aware of that irony).

RvW- You just got all that shit figured out in one fell swoop: Fox Propaganda/"News"! (whichever name you prefer) Most people who get into political debates about obama/obamacare just repeat the shit they hear from Fox, and actually know very little about the subject.

Kentucky- This video does nothing for your point except prove that racism exists. Nobody is denying that racism exists.

Andrew- Yep, you got it all down too. If most of the Republican party/Fox News followers actually thought for themselves and didn't blindly follow their group, this country would be a lot more Democratic.

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@Epicular You say you disagree with some of my statements. That's right, but this is just my opinion. You have a right to disagree.

@RvW

You mentioned a bit different matter. About the voters. So, I don't judge whether white voters do make good or bad decisions. 1 black vote = 1 white vote. Whites have more power because there is more of them and its natural. Again, I don't like to make distinction between black and white, because we are all people, but the topic requires to use this distinction.

Different people are different for good things. Some are good at running a business and others at being a group's leaders. I think that it's not that black people are terrible governors. But in my opinion very often white people are better at managing society's resources and policy.

@knyte

Skull size in relation to body size is only good predictor of intelligence, if we compare animals of SIMILAR SIZES. Then it is a good indicator, and that's my EQ diagram. But to make it realistic, we can only compare with animals of weight +/- 40% our body mass, I guess. Without such high EQ, I don't think we would make into space. Three things matter: brain size, body size and brain to body ratio.

How should I react to your argument with dog and wolf? Wolf has bigger brain, which gives him advantage, BUT he is bigger which puts him in disadvantage. Why? Because the bigger you are, the more brain volume you "waste" just for managing and functioning your body. Therefore cow's need big brains, to control all their cells. Also, think about dog and wolf brain to body ratio.

Finally, yes, its all which we say about is hard to prove and measure. Therefore, we will have different opinions and we cannot prove one another is wrong. It's convenient to give your arguments stating correlation doesn't exist but I believe you are 90% wrong, only I cannot prove it.

Did you watch my youtube video btw?



We have 3 problems: First is negative attitude towards black, which Kentucky is concerned about. This one can only be solved by education and awareness. No one can force people to have opinions. Consider movie stars, famous and loved, and average nerdy IT students. These students are ignored by most society, they are considered boring and have few friends maybe, but are not adored. There is inequality of attitude between move stars and nerdy guys. And NOTHING can be done about this. I am sure some black people are famous, popular and not-hated.

Second is police violence towards one group of people and this is unacceptable, but its hard to solve. I suggests solutions which Kentucky mentioned, but not revolution.

The last, poverty.
Normal people are put in poverty BECAUSE OF AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND UNJUST LAWS. Its true. Laws are in favour of big corporations and forbid people to work, to earn, to make a living. The major reasons are: too strict regulations for trade which makes common people don't meet them and are forbid to sell things. CAN I SELL EGGS, OR MEAT OR POTATOES OR BREAD OR ICE CREAM which I produced on my own, in my home? I FUCKING CANNOT. The cops will forbid me unless I meet all stupid bureaucratic regulations such as sanitory, manufacturing, 100% sterilized conditions. This puts in favour big corporations who are easily able to meet this regulations. Can I sell even a natural milk without pasterisation? I doubt it.

Let's assume I want to hire a black worker. The minimum hour wage is 7$ per hour. But I want him for 4$ per hour. What happens? I cannot hire him for 4$ legally, so he ends up unemployed and DOES NOT EARN A FUCKING CENT PER HOUR. Unemployment rises. Poverty rises.

This is all states fault.

Obama cannot solve any of these problems because he is a dumb president which indebted american nation as high as no president before him ever had, and all this jerky president can do is smile and spend money earned by hard-working americans. Obama will not solve poverty by funding benefits. It only hides problem and makes debt higher.

Epicular you said about school policy. This is kinda extensive topic and in my opinion, schools should not be compulsory. Also, is it really true that color determines the funding for a school? I deeply doubt it is true. Maybe students results influence school's fundings?

@Andrew
Yes, this is my opinion that majority of black people are incompetent politicians. It doesn't mean there are not few outstanding black politicians, much better than whites average? It is due to differences. I believe in racial differences. Not in hating other races.

So fuck you, you don't know what racism mean.

Let's assume I want to hire a black worker. The minimum hour wage is 7$ per hour. But I want him for 4$ per hour. What happens? I cannot hire him for 4$ legally, so he ends up unemployed and DOES NOT EARN A FUCKING CENT PER HOUR. Unemployment rises. Poverty rises.

I fail to see how this relates to the topic. You either have to hire someone for at least $7 per hour, or you don't hire them at all. Don't like the minimum wage? Too bad, I guess you don't get any employees and your business sinks. What does this have to do with black and white?

Obama cannot solve any of these problems because he is a dumb president which indebted american nation as high as no president before him ever had, and all this jerky president can do is smile and spend money earned by hard-working americans. Obama will not solve poverty by funding benefits. It only hides problem and makes debt higher.

Obama is inheriting all the shit Bush started, and the only way to fix it is to spend money. Of course, our debt wouldn't be quite as significant if we were to tax the rich, who have all the money they could ever need. But the republican party is against that- because they are made up of the rich people who can't let go of their precious money!

Epicular you said about school policy. This is kinda extensive topic and in my opinion, schools should not be compulsory. Also, is it really true that color determines the funding for a school? I deeply doubt it is true. Maybe students results influence school's fundings?

I actually don't know a lot about the subject of school policy. If our system gave less funding to the schools with worse student results? Then we would have the most fucked up school system on the planet. And maybe we do, but I know that some schools don't get nearly as much money as they should.

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I think that if people can tell you're black based on what you write, then you're going overboard with your own language and attracting attention thus putting you in an inferiority complex position/attitude.
In other words, you're bringing it on yourself.

Kentucky still has not posted evidence of the racism he's supposedly suffering so heavily from. He also advises a lot of extremes ("Destruction of warlight" and so on...).

There is plenty enough evidence that this guy is a troll, but obviously he's a successful one considering the attention he's still being given.

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I thought Warlight had better trolldetecting skills by now.

Yes, this is my opinion that majority of black people are incompetent politicians.

Then again, the same could be said about white politicians. :^)

So fuck you, you don't know what racism mean.

The tricky thing about racism is that it is mainly subconcious and has less to do with hate than you would expect.
18th/19th century white folks didn't hate black people. If you could ask them, the large majority would probably not even have had a problem admitting that black people are indeed people. People they would like to help!
..by ruling them and showing those savages how things are really done by civilized Europeans.

Racism is the belief that your own race is inherently more fit to rule the others. And you, sir, are racist. It's understandable to deny it (see: subconcious), most racists do that (with classics like "but I have black friends!! I cannot be racist!!"). But do us all a favor and be honest with yourself. Nobody is going to be impressed by eloquent arguments like "Fuck you".

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People they would like to help! ..by ruling them and showing those savages how things are really done by civilized Europeans

And we proudly keep doing this in our times :)

@Lyu
Ruling others/ policymaking is a job which requires skills and competence. Basketball also requires skills. According to your logic if a black people say that the majority of whites is worse at basketball he is a racist, because he assumes that his own race is inherently more fit to play basketball.

Of course if I criticize one group of people, or say their strenghts or weaknesses I am automatically labeled racist. The political correctness has gone too far.

@Epicular
Now I see that you are a socialist and fascist. Minimum wage is fascism. It denies my freedom and my workers freedom to make job transactions on our own conditions. It makes these contracts conditions unprofitable and therefore often a businessman must resign from hiring workers because they are too expensive.

You see as the only solution robbing rich people off their money. Indeed, you have a thinking of a primitive aggresive monkey who can only achieve everything by force, stealing and not work. The discussion with you is over. You have revealed your tricky and unhonourable nature.



Western culture is dead. Your socialist ideology, extensive political correctness and the will to accept limitless immigrants will have catastrophic effects. I refer this to all people who think likewise. The social collapse is near.

ALL BENEFITS MUST COME TO AN END. ALL PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH SHOULD BE KICKED HARD AND DEPORTED FROM US AND BRITAIN. ALL PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY COMMIT CRIMES AND ROBBERIES SHOULD BE SEND TO WORKING CAMPS. NO MERCY FOR THEM. ONLY THIS CAN SAVE EUROPE AND US AND RESTORE JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS. NO MORE EXPLOITATION OF HONEST AND HARD-WORKING PEOPLE.

Kain, bro, at least you are normal in this sea of demoralized and fascist people.

Pozdro!

Yeah this for the homies Carnegie, Rockefeller, pouring one out for Louis fourteenth. Yeah we make money off of poor people, I kill coca cola union organisers, I have politicians murdered yeah I get kids to make Nike's for a nickel a day, you know what I'm saying?

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@Berdan131 happy to her that bro :)

Noż kurwa co za banda zjebów się tu zebrała :)