Sorry Chris, but I don't see WG doing well this clan league, and you're giving too much credit for gui in the french clan, he wasn't even their best player last season... anyway I believe the fight for 5-7 is between lynx turtles and WG, however I'm with ZBD and lynx will dodge the relegation, that leaves us with turtles and WG, turtles have a good lineup for 1v1s and 2v2s capable of doing well in all of them, but unlikely to win any tournament. Their 3v3 lineup is a lot weaker which will drop them a lot of points. And we have WG which imo, won't perform aswell as turtles in 1v1s and 2v2s but will outperform in 3v3s, but it still won't be enough to avoid that last place.

Sadly AOE shall not have Lisa participating in Clan League

Thanks ChrisCMU for the match up generator. I have this for Group A

Apex 164
Master 139
WG 132
Turtles 117
French 105
Lynx 98
GG 95

Used the spreadsheet, the only change from my initial predictions is GG sink 2 spots. I assumed the best team in each tourney would sweep, so the actual scores are likely to be closer together. The top 3 get a lower score, and the bottom 3 get a higher score than the predictions below.
1. Masters 161
2. Apex 160
3. French 136
4. Lynx 112
5. Turtles 85
6. GG 81
7. WG 80

interesting, using Chris spreadsheet I have to change my vote. Also I get that none clan will have more than 150 pts and less than 100. I save it and check during CL

A division

1) Masters
2) Apex
3) French
4) Lynx
5) GG
6) Turtles
7) WG


B division

1) ONE!
2) 101st
3) Blitz
4) Sninja
5) VIW
6) REGL
7) Stahl


C division

1) M'H
2) Corp
3) Hydra
4) VS
5) Yin Yang
6) BIA
7) LEA



Btw, I understand people that put us on 3rd, but seriously. Predicting that we'll go 5th or that VIW will win this is kindda crazy lol... People often forget that one good player can't win a division by itself, unfortunatly for VIW, AG can't play more than 3 tournaments. 101st can well up end 3rd, but I doubt we can go lower than that, if we have no star, our strengh is that we have no weak player in our roster either. From what I've seen we're well able to beat these stars people think clans can solely on in a good ammount of games.

Also, anyone expecting WG to be ahead of Lynx is seriously either unawere of Lynx's strengh or WG weakness.

People should stop making such assertive comments before the season starts.
Saying people are "crazy" for predicting certain outcomes is not something you should really be doing. What would you have said if someone told you Leicester City were going to win the Premier League last season? they were 5000-1 at the start of the season, and missed relegation in the Championship only by playing out of their minds at the very end of the season before.
Just say that you don't see it happening or that you would be surprised, have the arguments at the end of the season once everyone has proved their worth

A

Gut:

1. apex
2. masters
3. FC
4. GG
5. WG
6. Lynx
7. Turtles

Sheet:

1. Masters
2. apex
3. FC
4. GG
5. WG
6. Lynx
7. Turtles

B

Gut:

1. Blitz
2. One
3. 101st
4. Regl
5. Sninja
6. VIW
7. Stahl

Edited 6/1/2016 14:29:54

Before:
1.Masters
2. Apex
3. French
4. GG
5. Turtles
6. Lynx
7. WG
_______________
After:
French 154
Master 148
apex 138
GG 135
Icelandic Turtles 100
Lynx 99
WG 99

This is what I think :P Thanks Chris for the sheet

Edited 6/1/2016 15:56:22

Initial predictions (will do simulator)
A
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. GG
4. French
5. Turtles
6. Lynx
7. WG

After simulator
1. Master- 155
2. Apex- 143
3. Turtles- 129
4. GG- 123
5. Lynx- 119
6. French- 117
7. WG- 61

Way different then I expected and obviously biased towards turtles though I would not put it past us I believe in my clan mates, will probably do another tonight and go more in depth this was just quickly scanning through the line ups. I also know WG will not perform this badly just how it came out when I was scanning through :p I know french is better than this but I have only played with 3 or 4 of them so I will have to look at last CL to see how to judge their talent later.

Edited 6/1/2016 18:43:23

i feel like the 1 person rooting for WG other than Chris, haha. would love to see them stay in. Using the sheet now.

1. Masters - 163
2. Apex - 151
3. WG - 120
4. French - 112
5. Turtles - 103
6. Lynx - 97
7. GG - 92

GG dropped huge, Lynx still relegated, Apex and WG climbed, French and Masters stay the same, Turtles raise.

I'm not changing my prediction, this is just me playing with the sheet

Anyone else wondering if WG will lower its join requirements if it loses its A-list status?

Guys, don't ask me for access to the sheet, you don't need it. Just copy it to your own google drive and edit as you please.

And no, we are not changing our join requirements either way.

Really, this season will be hard to predict. The templates have changed more this season than at any other time. Plus I think A is as deep as it has ever been (there have always been 1-2 clans that falter hard). I could easily see every clan over 100 pts, and last season Ahol barely broke 40).

1. Masters
2. Apex
3. French
4. Turtles
5. GG
6. WG
7. Lynx

@FK: Why would WG lower their join requirements if they need more quality to get back to A, not less?

I didn't think I was as biased as I am until I used Chris's sheet.... Masters, Icelandic Turtles, French, and Apex all had 132+ points. Lynx avoided relegation with 97, GG in 6th with 78, and WG falling where I expected with 73...

So yea Master and Icelandic Turtle clan biases :P But the other results kinda suprised me...

Is Quicksand competing or CORP? I'm not interested in finishing this already fantastic clan league until November.

Yep, Quicksand is competing for CORP.

@hedja

Hard to fight your arguments, specially the leicester one :D

But still, B with any clan other than 101st, Blitz and ONE! making the top 3 is really an upset, at least in my mind. Same for WG not getting relegated...