I have super-ascended a fourth time.

Boon chosen: +1 artifact carryover - Leg SAC

Total boons: +25% AP, +5 artifacts.

Artifacts carried over:

* Insane Alloy Values
* Insane Army Cache Boost
* Insane Time Warp
* Insane Army Camp Boost
* Legendary Supercharge Army Camp

next time: +25% AP

550 supers +2900%ap(30x), 40 slots, 5 dig speed, 39100 start ap


Edited 5/7/2024 00:03:58

You may only keep 40 artifacts.

Ivan0 how much more starting AP do you need until you can max phase 3 skip level without playing a single level? Or have you already gotten there?

About 18.5K to max out additional mercs, +100 for army camps, triple strike and max out money cache
Say 10.5 for maxed out AV, discounted mercs and AP bonus on level 2
13.2 to max out skip levels
42.2 total to get there, he is close.

But he gets 30X AP on every level, At that point he could do a level that has a base of about 100 AP and he is there, another level perhaps and do some hardened to super and he is done son. With all those AP and artifacts he should be able to rip through levels pretty fast.

Or... don't max out additional mercs all the way right away, get the 10 skip levels, do a level or two, then max it out AM then hit hardeneds.

I guess by this point he has enough that more +100 APs won't make an actual difference in terms of speeding through levels. Until he can hit maxed out army cache and improved hospitals.

I guess the big push now is to start with enough AP to super right away, it's been done. That seems to be the big end goal.

I start with skip 6. After the tutorial that gets me to Peloponnesian War. Skip 10 would get to Copper Creek Castle, but that is a much slower level, and I only need to make it to Far Land to be done with normal levels. Then I don't need skip10 till after Hardened Old Town.

Tutorial x 3 (while spending start ap)
Peloponnesian War 0.10 hr
Far Land 0.40 hr
Hardened Far Land 0.52 hr
Hardened Old Town 0.45 hr
Hardened Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire 0.28 hr

Next bump in speed will be enough start ap to skip Hardened Far Land (9000 more).

Any more recent views on how many +25% AP is best before you switch to +100AP
In the past you said IIRC, +40, or 11X AP gain if my math is correct.

Eighth Super Ascend!

New bonus: +1 slot
Kept: Legendary AV, TW, SAC, A$B, ACampB, and CB, Rare HB, Uncommon SC (Speedy Crafters).
Bonuses: +6 slots, +50% AP

Slow played this one. That wasn't intentional at first, I forgot to activate the CW bonuses before activating my SAC/TW artifacts multiple times and then I decided to just not bother and instead lean more heavily on my (new at the time) Epic CB and generally not use SAC/TW (although once I picked up 4th boy, TW got regular use). Despite the aforementioned slow play, it didn't make too much of a difference in the time to hit the AP required for SA (21 days here vs 17 days in the previous SA with heavy SAC + TW usage and CW bonus).

Digging was a big bottleneck this time around, I needed another 13 days of autodigging at the end to complete the 3rd new Epic fodder to start the Legendary CB upgrade. However, this problem and the chucking Epics problem should both be solved now, at least for the time being. I'm rolling into SA9 with a bonus Rare and Uncommon, will take 3 Epic fodders into SA10 (with +1 slot again) and then make another Legendary and take probably 2 fodder Rares for SA11 (with +25% AP), alternating +1 slot and +25% AP for awhile, until I make my first Insane. This essentially spreads the dig for a new Epic out over two SAs, which makes it dramatically more practical at this point, especially because you get to claim two free Rares that way instead of just one.

600 supers 2925%ap(30.25x), 41 slots, 5 dig speed, 43900 start ap


Edited 5/7/2024 00:03:19

50 SA in a week!

very impressive Ivan, thanks for posting

5 +AP
ITW
IAV
LA$B
LACB
RSAC

1st super ascend :)
Got the 3rd artefact bonus to keep insane army camp boost, legendary bonus money boost and legendary triple strike.

15th Sasc - +175%, 10 Slots, 15 days, still no Insane Artifacts.

Finally Super Ascended.

Took insane AV and insane TW.
Chose +20% dig speed, as not planning to super again.

Just wanted to unlock the new levels.
Therefore: +25%AP gain not needed (will max out everything eventually anyway); +1 artifact slot wouldn't help in long term (2x insane is plenty of speed-up, to get back to phase 4 asap); whereas dig speed has been my biggest limiting factor, so +20% will help getting decent artis before hitting the new levels.

Am gonna miss my leg Triple Strike though ~ got it before HCCC reward was nerfed to epic, prior to Sasc being added. (That should tell you how long I've been playing Idle. Pure solo mode: no CW bonuses, no clan requests, no idle battle rewards. ~ mp/pvp is really not my thing.)


And finally a big shoutout to all you veterans in this forum: There has been a tonne of very helpful information shared in these threads, and some amusing/interesting stories too (eg; WarTog vs wzib).
Thanks a bunch!

"as not planning to super again. "

Yeah, I swore I was never going to super again either. Sigh.

I have super-ascended an eleventh time.

Boon chosen: +1 artifact carryover

Total boons: +150% AP, +5 artifacts

Artifacts carried over:

* Insane Army Cache Boost
* Legendary Alloy Values
* Legendary Supercharge Army Camp
* Legendary Army Camp Boost
* Legendary Time Warp (upgrade)
* Rare Hospital Boost (new)
* Uncommon Territory Money Boost (new)

next time: probably another artifact

650 supers +2925%ap(30.25x), 41 slots, 5 dig speed, 48900 start ap


Edited 5/7/2024 00:02:54

6 supers: +100%AP, 4 artifact slots - 24days.



Now my short term objective is to get enough AP% to get skip level 10 to skip EH to HEX. Longer term is to make enough AP% to get enough AP to SA by doing HLevels.

Ninth Super Ascend!

New bonus: +1 slot
Kept: Legendary AV, TW, SAC, A$B, ACampB, and CB, Epic HB, TS, and MR
Bonuses: +7 slots, +50% AP

This one really tore by (only 14 days, my fastest SA thus far by a comfortable margin, and with no digging needed at the end). The Legendary CB made a bigger difference than I was anticipating, it was actually quite noticeable. I am finally at the point where I can take another +%AP on SA10 without throwing away any Epics, which is a great feeling. It's the culmination of a lot of previous SAs of planning coming together. It is also going to be nice to start trimming down the real slog of a grind at the end of an SA (with more %+AP) where you just blitz through everything as fast as you can click (and AAQ can go) over and over.