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Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 17:25:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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And Berdan sounds like he's trying to incite a revolution than actually try and "fix" Europe and America
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 17:47:51


{W.U} Lyu
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According to your logic if a black people say that the majority of whites is worse at basketball he is a racist, because he assumes that his own race is inherently more fit to play basketball.

Hey, you are learning!

Minimum wage is fascism.

lol.

ALL PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH SHOULD BE KICKED HARD AND DEPORTED FROM US AND BRITAIN.

Wait what. You are from Poland (and not a native speaker of English), so how is that even your concern?
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 17:57:32


berdan131
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@Lyu
I will not give you a reply and to anyone else here. Have a nice day.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 18:04:03


{W.U} Lyu
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Really? Why not? :(
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 18:32:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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Edited 5/9/2015 18:32:43
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 19:00:39


TeamGuns
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That's fun. The same thing French, German, Italian, Belgian and Dutch thinks of Polish people "invading" their countries. You've got problems dude...
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 20:03:58

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In https://www.warlight.net/Forum/89646-antiblackness-warlight-community?Offset=96 berdan131 said:
ALL PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH SHOULD BE KICKED HARD AND DEPORTED FROM US AND BRITAIN.

May I direct your attention to episode 84 of XKCD:



(source: https://xkcd.com/84/)

Edited 5/9/2015 20:06:52
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 20:09:32


berdan131
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@Lyu
All right. I say this, because I care. I want to live in civilized world in society which makes prosperity, and is responsible, which solve social problems and not creates them, such as Australia or Switzerland. Poland is a country with little perspective for young people so I will probably move, too.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 20:35:27


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RvW, I have to say the logic of that comic is rather faulty. There is nothing unreasonable in expecting people to learn the majority language of a country they move to.

If I were to move to Mexico, I wouldn't expect people to speak English,rather it would be my duty to learn Spanish. By the same logic people moving to English speaking countries should learn English.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 21:20:19

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Eklipse,

You are entirely missing the point.

Once upon a time, the territory which would later become the USA was not speaking English (but a bunch of Indian languages). If the European settlers had lived up to the same standards modern-day "if you move somewhere, you learn their language"-proponents want to hold modern-day immigrants to, the USA would never have become an English-speaking country in the first place.

It is not about how reasonable it is to expect people to learn (in this case) English, the point is that there's a huge double standard!



Just to prevent misunderstanding:
Yes, I do agree people moving abroad should make an effort to learn a language in which they can make themselves understood... but with a few caveats:
  • I deliberately say "a" language; if somebody moves to, for instance, the Netherlands, Dutch would certainly be an option. Should somebody prefers learning (or improving, or already speaking) English instead, that's fine with me.
    I do feel they shouldn't complain too much when not everything in the Netherlands is available in English and to accept they'll sometimes be inconvenienced a bit. I'm not aware of any cases where this has been a problem though.
  • I myself am terrible at learning languages; the reason my English is pretty good is simply the result of spending twenty years on learning it. For that reason, I can vividly imagine living in a country for quite a while without as of yet having mastered the local language.
    I merely expect an honest effort from immigrants. To the best of my knowledge, virtually all immigrants want to learn the language; if they still haven't made much progress after a few years, the reason is more often than not a multi-year waiting list for language courses... not unwillingness on their part.
    I'm against putting a deadline on specific results ("be able to pass such-and-so exam within x years of arrival"), since that would be tantamount to hypocrisy; if I myself would ever go and live abroad, I wouldn't like to be confronted with such a deadline either.
  • There really is no compelling reason for a US citizen who never goes abroad to learn another language; if they don't want to, fine. But I do feel that somebody like that should be extremely reserved about making judgements about the speed at which other people (immigrants) are learning English. Learning a language is genuinely hard; if you've never done it yourself, you're in no position to criticise other people for having difficulties with it.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 21:35:17


[NL] Willem van Oranje
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I see the subject of this thread totaly changed...
I see no black and white players here!!!! and it does not even matter. I even don't mind if you're an alien playing from space practising to conquer the world.

For the people who discriminate; you're not better than other people.
For the people who feel discriminated: you should be proud on yourself who you are and get some self-confidence!

I think it is a ridiculus subject to discuss on warlight because appearance does not matter on the internet world.

Good Night!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-09 23:55:57


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Since Captain Phrenology just conceded all my points and proceeded to repeat his own, my final comment:

Have you ever noticed that the people who source their pride from their race or nationality are the exact same people who would otherwise have virtually nothing to be proud of?
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 00:19:14


Жұқтыру
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Woah, the topic changed to tongues - well, learn the tongue most used in your country - it's a have-to.

English if you're visiting anywhere (aside from some poor countries noone wants go to anyway like Somalia) will work.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 00:21:13


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RvW, we DID learn the language. We just didn't ALL learn it. Settlements often had translators n or took up their language wholesale (like quakers?). Through translators and native translators, we traded.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 00:25:36


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Its a rhetorical question, but yes.
I know what you mean.

We should be proud of ourselves. And people of every race have something to be proud of. We should be aware of our own race, of our weaknesses and strengths, and also be respectful for other people, if they are respectful to you, no matter whey they come from.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 01:26:29


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@Epicular
Now I see that you are a socialist and fascist. Minimum wage is fascism. It denies my freedom and my workers freedom to make job transactions on our own conditions. It makes these contracts conditions unprofitable and therefore often a businessman must resign from hiring workers because they are too expensive.

You see as the only solution robbing rich people off their money. Indeed, you have a thinking of a primitive aggresive monkey who can only achieve everything by force, stealing and not work. The discussion with you is over. You have revealed your tricky and unhonourable nature.

lol. You spew nonsense. You have no way to effectively counter my argument so you yell insults and flee.
lol. I achieve everything by force, stealing and not work? Where the living fuck did that come from? What have I said to indicate anything close to that? I said the rich should be taxed a bit more...
I think the rich can handle losing a bit of their money for the greater good. All they do is sit on it anyways.

I now see that you are blind and subconsciously racist. You blindly follow one side and attack the other without taking a moment to actually think it through for yourself. You are like most americans who need a serious wake-up call, but that cannot be achieved by a Warlight forum, so I am therefore done conversing with you as there is no point in continuing this discussion.

Edited 5/10/2015 01:30:58
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 01:38:32


Genghis 
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I think more rich people should be like Carnegie and John d. Rockefeller. Give as much money as you can to charity for competition.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 01:41:13


Epicular
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Yeah. And not like Donald Trump. That man disgusts me, he has no talent and sits on a throne of cash acting like he is intellectually above everyone else.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 01:57:46


l4v.r0v 
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Yo berdan, you said you'd stop replying. Could you actually fucking do that? Thanks.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 2015-05-10 02:34:27


Epicular
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