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Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 21:43:28


Norman 
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Wait, why am I spending all this effort explaining the situation to two people who've never been involved in The Lost Wolves, have never even contributed to The Lost Wolves, and certainly have no say in decisions made within The Lost Wolves?

Because you want Semicedevine for your clan league team?

However imo you are taking stuff to serious. Just aknowledge that Semicedevine most likely tricked the Royal Entente for gaining those manager rights and move on. Semicedevine has been an initial member of the Wolves and imo you shouldn't judge him, you are a new guy. The Wolves were from the start there for trolling and taking over other clans as a form of clan war was a thing the Wolves are famous for. This time it didn't work out well but when you live on the edge there is always a risk involved.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 21:43:38

madking321
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@Onoma94

How did you know? O-o
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 21:45:00

madking321
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@Norman

Wise words. I will now go back to my gay pirate roleplay.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 22:12:35

[wolf]japan77
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@Norman, so we aren't supposed to defend clan members when they come under fire due to previous reputations? ok then.
We have admitted that
A. Its likely it was Semice.
B. We have punished him to a degree without evidence
C. We will take more measures if it turns out as so.
In return the community decided that
A. It was semice(without evidence)
B. TLW has done nothing and will do nothing due to Semice being a valuable player(The first part of that statement is entirely f*cking false)
C. mob justice rules, and we are gonna force TLW to do stuff.(Thing to note: TLW doesn't actually care about its reputation as a clan, we are defending a member on the public forums whom doesn't deserve to get such slander without evidence)

With that, Japan out.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 22:25:10


Norman 
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@japan: No, I meant you should let Semicedevine have his fun.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 22:29:38


Zephyrum
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God, thanks Japan, you're the most sensible person in this thread. Jesus christ, it's just a goddamn clan most of you never interacted with, and many of you probably saw Colonel as "just another forum troll" before this. What is gone is gone. Colonel supposedly already bought another clan. Whoever (semice) did it doesn't have to be punished because the rules does not state anything against hijacking; if it's not prohibited, it's permitted. Basic rule about ToS and such.

I liked most of the guys from RE and this will probably cause a lot of confusion in RPCL2, too, and I'm not complaining. Just live and let go. Semice got some punishments in the wolves' forums and stuff and now also has a ridiculously large amount of people hating him and wanting him banned. Colonel already got another clan. Case closed.

The Wolves were from the start there for trolling


While undeniably trolls were present, the wolves was never a troll clan. Troll clans include but are not limited to Wacos, FAG, OMG. Following that logic, madking should just stay quiet because that'd make MSF a troll clan; a very 'good' one at that.

taking over other clans as a form of clan war was a thing the Wolves are famous for.


That's Semice's doings, not the Wolves'. Never has anyone who actually controlled the wolves told him to hijack or ruin another clan; he does it for his own fun, as twisted as it may be (though at the end he always gives back, making it slightly less a dick move).

Wait, why am I spending all this effort explaining the situation to two people who've never been involved in The Lost Wolves, have never even contributed to The Lost Wolves, and certainly have no say in decisions made within The Lost Wolves?


Not a valid point, specially when the reason all this bullshit is being discussed directly affects another clan, as well as 5 others indirectly in RPCL2.

Semicedevine has been an initial member of the Wolves and imo you shouldn't judge him, you are a new guy.


Well Norman, as lame as Knyte's argument was, you shot yourself in the foot and proved his point. He's been there long ago, back when the wolves were still starting out under godkung, though he left and returned much later (now).
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 22:39:07

madking321
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This thread is slowly becoming rational. What is this black magic?!

But seriously i'm mostly just pissed off at knyte.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-19 22:42:04

madking321
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"ridiculously large amount of people hating him and wanting him banned"

I'm a little unclear on this, because everyone keeps switching back between saying there's a mob trying to lynch samine, and that there are only a small group of people who hate him for apparently no reason.(I kinda wish knyte would be a little more consistent with this)

Edited 5/19/2016 22:49:40
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 00:12:14

Vodyak
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Any of you genius have any actual proof saying Semice hijacked the clan ? And well just as a scenario considering he did hijack it what has TLW got to do anything about it. It dosent matters to the clan if you are a robber or you shit in the woods, and why would Fizzer ban the guy who did this anyway, he got manager rights from idiots who don't know it's purpose and used it right away to assume the role of a leader in the roleplaying clan.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 00:38:46

madking321
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Dude, let this die.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 00:46:15


Epicular
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Jesus FUCKING CHRIST

This thread is childish beyond belief- everyone's taking this waaay too seriously! Who give a fuck what happens to Semicedevine? Whether he did it or not, the damage has already been done, and banning him won't do jack shit. Everyone ought to just chill and realize that your pointless bickering about the specifics of the punishments he receives and why DOES NOT MATTER. Any sanctions TLW put on him are essentially meaningless. Even if he were banned- there's a thing called an alternate account! So go find a new thread with a new stupid drama to type up walls of text on- because everything on this thread has been repeated at least 6 times and everyone acts like it's a new thing each time it's said!
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 00:57:04

madking321
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HEy, i stopped arguing a long time ago.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 01:02:13


Dogberry
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"This is the perfect recipe for a hijacking; they were virtually asking to get hijacked"
--Semicedevine



That's what we're going with here? They were asking for it? Seriously?

That is the exact same damn thing as saying that someone deserved to be raped because their skirt was too short.

Victim-blaming is never a good look. Stop.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 01:29:33


adrian waco
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^ dis boi is RIGHT

fizzer is too lazy to reform the clan manager system

how long has it been that ppl want this shit? you gotta pose some kind of threat or some kind of leverage over fizzer in order to enact the changes u want

i had issue with waco manager rights (stupid glitch led to one of da manager to remove all managers) and fizzer restored the manager to its rightful owner. idk how common this is with regards to other hijacks though.

good thing the wacos never have issues with hijacking

we will never have issues with it hahaha
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 01:41:38


l4v.r0v 
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That is the exact same damn thing as saying that someone deserved to be raped because their skirt was too short.


No it's not. Rape, by definition, doesn't require consent. Getting "hijacked" is entirely based on consent- you have to give someone Manager Rights and the ability to do whatever they want with your clan. If you want to go for the sex analogy, this is like telling someone they can do whatever they want, tying yourself up, and then getting mad when they go get ice cream instead.

Colonel's literally just asking Fizzer to ban Semice because whoever "hijacked" RE didn't do what Colonel wanted them to with the MR.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 01:46:40

madking321
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Just sitting here waiting for the thread to be locked.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 02:07:46


skull11244
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Lets put it this way: giving someone MR is like giving them 15 dollars and telling them to hold onto it for you.

If you wouldn't trust them with 15 dollars, don't trust them with MR. Simple.

I'm not defending Semice, but he shouldn't be banned.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 02:14:37


l4v.r0v 
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It's more like wiring someone $15 over the Internet.
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 02:19:24


Dogberry
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Actually, it is rather similar to intimate partner violence. The fact that someone married their spouse does not exclude the possibility of rape. Previous consent does not guarantee continued consent.


But then again, they had it coming, right?

Edited 5/20/2016 02:21:22
Ban Semicedevine Permanently: UserVoice: 2016-05-20 02:20:54


Benjamin628 
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1. Innocent until proven guilty
2. It's not really a big deal, Colonel made a dumb post as usual.
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