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Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 20:53:18


Onoma94
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Well, this changed in 5.16.1:

– All: Increased the number of templates available per timeslot in Clan Wars slightly.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 20:54:40


krinid 
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At least we got this:
– All: Increased the number of templates available per timeslot in Clan Wars slightly.


I've still seen single template slots, so it clearly doesn't solve the problem, but presumably improves the situation?

'Presumably' with a '?' b/c we don't know just how slight 'slightly' is. Maybe we'll only get a 70% chance of a single template slot instead of an 80% chance. (Just throwing out #'s, I know it works based on participation in the same slot of the previous day - which makes no sense imho - it means whenever you have a bad template offering in a timeslot which will result in lower participation that you lower the following day's slots; it ignores the issue that actual problem of bad templates & quantities; makes no sense to 'punish' a slot b/c people didn't like the templates in today's slot that were in the same slot yesterday).

Long answer to mean: Yes, essentially, likely nothing is going to change. (;
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 20:55:21


JK_3 
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Right, and over the past 5 seasons we also achieved that 2v2 can never be the only template in a timeslot.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 20:57:12


krinid 
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We also got the change that Free Wins increase CW rating. I think by ... 1? lol

And some of the additional templates like FB and forget what else was added.

Edited 12/14/2021 21:04:32
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 22:25:55


l4v.r0v 
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We concluded CW is sub-optimal, gave a bunch of suggestions to improve it, and now nothing is going to change
Sub-optimal for one set of goals, which are probably not the actual goals of CW. Consider that f2p games don't make revenue off of usage or participation or user delight- with f2p, attracting users is no longer the problem- but from creating an enjoyment gradient that turns users into revenue-producing users. The sub-optimality we found in this thread is likely a feature of CW that helps improve, e.g., Idle and Membership/Strategy Pack conversion rates. After all, if the free experience of a f2p game were actually great, there'd be no reason to spend on microtransactions.

Maybe the Weird MME templates are there to advertise MA, LD, Commanders, and Light Fog so the players who don't have a month to hit L56 will pay to unlock those features. Maybe the slots are ever so slightly frustrating so that people stick around longer and convert to Idle while they wait. This post speaks the language of participation, not revenue, and the interests of a f2p game that cares about revenue will often be at odds with maximizing the participation and enjoyment of its users.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 23:31:31


Corn Silver 
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So before the thread gets overrun by trolls:

We concluded CW is sub-optimal, gave a bunch of suggestions to improve it, and now nothing is going to change? (Just like with all the other forums about CW)


Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 23:33:42


JK_3 
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No, I'm still waiting for someone to suggest I post suggestions to the uservoice tho.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-14 23:50:24


allusernamesaretaken12 
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Post suggestions to the uservoice. @JK_3
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 00:01:04


Diety Emperor Cacao, God Ruler of the Universe 
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Yes
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 00:55:32


krinid 
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LMAO @ User Voice

I actually thought that was a WZ official site when I first joined.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 00:58:03


l4v.r0v 
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it is. it's official. even actively maintained. I know because my unrelated uservoice was marked done when Clan Wars was launched (because, like the other fixed uservoices about this topic, I had used the phrase "clan war" to ask for something unrelated).
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 00:59:26


JK_3 
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I remember when someone's request for a clan messages system (clan manager send mail/notification to all other clan members) got marked as done because clan chat exists 🤣
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 01:17:52


l4v.r0v 
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Notably, that Uservoice was created well after Clan Chat was released and the author was aware Clan Chat exists because the Uservoice brought up the limitations of Clan Chat when making its case.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 04:24:12


krinid 
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So I guess technically Uservoice items actually are being actioned?
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 04:28:31


l4v.r0v 
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Yeah. You can sort by new and filter by status (Completed/Declined) to see the latest activity. There was a Uservoice suggestion declined in late November, for example: https://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warzone-features/suggestions/44500542-cant-login-on-website-using-apple-login
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 05:06:39


krinid 
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So there's actual interaction w/Fizzer on it then ... that's good actually. Even if it's only to Decline unreasonable/non-aligned requests and green light ones that already align to work he has planned, it's better than nothing.

I remember a while back, maybe even before I joined, there was some contest where the winner got to request 1 new WZ feature ... he should do that again.
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 08:58:33


JK_3 
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Imagine just waking up and trying to get a quick CW game in, and then you get this slot https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=7&Timeslot=1679
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 09:10:09


l4v.r0v 
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So there's actual interaction w/Fizzer on it then
Not meaningfully. The Uservoice, in spite of having fairly low volume, is essentially unmaintained so you'll find spam ads on it from time to time. Plus a casual survey of the responses in the last few years makes one suspect they don't actually get read. (Kind of a recurring theme on this site.)
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 09:21:25


sanmu the shamu
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#FizzerNeedsToRespond
Is Clan Wars DYING?!?! 😨😨😨: 2021-12-15 09:32:49


l4v.r0v 
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No amount of communication can bridge a fundamental conflict of self-interest.
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